1 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:06,530 the plaintiff thought the masters almost 2 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:09,570 surely have a plan this clearly maybe 3 00:00:16,730 --> 00:00:13,170 something there beyond the realm of man 4 00:00:19,859 --> 00:00:16,740 thoroughly tested every last question 5 00:00:42,430 --> 00:00:19,869 and the more you think you know the less 6 00:00:46,639 --> 00:00:44,990 folks we know deception crimes and 7 00:00:48,590 --> 00:00:46,649 cover-ups are instrumental to the way 8 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:48,600 the power elite does things from staging 9 00:00:52,510 --> 00:00:51,090 coos overthrowing leaders creating false 10 00:00:55,100 --> 00:00:52,520 flags and carrying out assassinations 11 00:00:56,930 --> 00:00:55,110 they stop at nothing and spare no 12 00:00:59,090 --> 00:00:56,940 expense when it comes to advancing their 13 00:01:01,160 --> 00:00:59,100 hidden agenda securing their wealth and 14 00:01:03,049 --> 00:01:01,170 power and deceiving the masses from 15 00:01:04,670 --> 00:01:03,059 these realities however out of 16 00:01:06,350 --> 00:01:04,680 everything they've done nothing has 17 00:01:08,780 --> 00:01:06,360 helped people see the light better than 18 00:01:10,730 --> 00:01:08,790 the very public assassination of JFK and 19 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:10,740 the sideshow circus that resulted in the 20 00:01:15,020 --> 00:01:13,170 aftermath dare I call it the gateway 21 00:01:16,730 --> 00:01:15,030 conspiracy for most of the American 22 00:01:18,320 --> 00:01:16,740 people and those wise enough have been 23 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:18,330 looking at events with a skeptical eye 24 00:01:22,639 --> 00:01:20,490 ever since and be that as it may 25 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:22,649 few people realize the real depth of 26 00:01:26,359 --> 00:01:24,450 this saga what Lee Harvey Oswald was 27 00:01:28,279 --> 00:01:26,369 really doing and how this related to a 28 00:01:29,540 --> 00:01:28,289 cancer-causing monkey virus that has 29 00:01:31,580 --> 00:01:29,550 been administered to millions of 30 00:01:33,620 --> 00:01:31,590 Americans under the guise of a vaccine 31 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:33,630 making the death of a president in 32 00:01:37,850 --> 00:01:35,250 Dallas really just the tip of the 33 00:01:39,469 --> 00:01:37,860 iceberg well lucky for us after decades 34 00:01:41,270 --> 00:01:39,479 of having to bite her tongue Judith 35 00:01:43,010 --> 00:01:41,280 Barry Baker has come forward to share 36 00:01:44,960 --> 00:01:43,020 her story of being intimately involved 37 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:44,970 with Lee Harvey Oswald as well as a 38 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:47,130 secret operation to weaponize cancer 39 00:01:51,950 --> 00:01:49,530 which he details in her two books me and 40 00:01:54,499 --> 00:01:51,960 Lee how I came to know love and lose Lee 41 00:01:56,390 --> 00:01:54,509 Harvey Oswald and David Ferrie mafia 42 00:01:58,429 --> 00:01:56,400 pilot participant an anti-castro 43 00:02:00,649 --> 00:01:58,439 bioweapon plot friend of Lee Harvey 44 00:02:03,679 --> 00:02:00,659 Oswald and key to the JFK assassination 45 00:02:05,510 --> 00:02:03,689 I commend her bravery and breaking the 46 00:02:07,460 --> 00:02:05,520 silence I'm very happy to have her here 47 00:02:09,889 --> 00:02:07,470 Judith Barry Baker welcome to the higher 48 00:02:12,500 --> 00:02:09,899 side well I'm happy to be here thank you 49 00:02:14,449 --> 00:02:12,510 very much well this is a serious treat 50 00:02:16,250 --> 00:02:14,459 for me it's very surreal to talk to 51 00:02:18,350 --> 00:02:16,260 someone who has such intimate knowledge 52 00:02:20,750 --> 00:02:18,360 of these people and events and was very 53 00:02:22,490 --> 00:02:20,760 much involved firsthand and for people 54 00:02:24,350 --> 00:02:22,500 who might be unfamiliar I know you've 55 00:02:25,970 --> 00:02:24,360 talked about this story quite a bit in 56 00:02:27,259 --> 00:02:25,980 recent years but tell us about how you 57 00:02:28,910 --> 00:02:27,269 got involved with this cancer 58 00:02:31,300 --> 00:02:28,920 weaponization project which of course 59 00:02:34,039 --> 00:02:31,310 brought you to Lee Harvey Oswald as well 60 00:02:35,569 --> 00:02:34,049 okay and also I'm hoping that when 61 00:02:38,090 --> 00:02:35,579 people read the book is David Ferrie 62 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:38,100 mafia pilot briefly wanted to say that a 63 00:02:40,789 --> 00:02:39,690 lot of people thought that David Ferrie 64 00:02:43,430 --> 00:02:40,799 hated Kennedy 65 00:02:46,340 --> 00:02:43,440 I just wanted to in case we don't get 66 00:02:48,199 --> 00:02:46,350 back to it he actually did express 67 00:02:50,330 --> 00:02:48,209 hatred for Kennedy and the fact that he 68 00:02:52,089 --> 00:02:50,340 said Kennedy ought to be shot at a 69 00:02:54,710 --> 00:02:52,099 particular meeting of retired military 70 00:02:55,570 --> 00:02:54,720 officers in New Orleans right after the 71 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:55,580 Bay of Pigs 72 00:03:01,240 --> 00:02:58,370 well they made a bit off the stage but 73 00:03:03,699 --> 00:03:01,250 as a matter of fact he actually changed 74 00:03:05,230 --> 00:03:03,709 his mind later but these men surrounded 75 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:05,240 him and said you know what we feel the 76 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:07,610 same way and you're a talented pilot 77 00:03:12,660 --> 00:03:10,130 you're going on from here to all these 78 00:03:15,220 --> 00:03:12,670 Texas cities and you can courier 79 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:15,230 information for us faster than the US 80 00:03:20,350 --> 00:03:18,170 Mail you know you're he's trained pilots 81 00:03:22,690 --> 00:03:20,360 for you know anti-castro we trust you 82 00:03:25,300 --> 00:03:22,700 and then see David Ferrie change his 83 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:25,310 mind you found out who was really 84 00:03:30,790 --> 00:03:27,410 responsible for the fiasco of the date 85 00:03:33,910 --> 00:03:30,800 Bay of Pigs and he realized that it 86 00:03:35,830 --> 00:03:33,920 wasn't Kennedy hmm and now he was in a 87 00:03:37,570 --> 00:03:35,840 position where he didn't dare say hey I 88 00:03:39,910 --> 00:03:37,580 changed my mind I like Kennedy is they 89 00:03:41,949 --> 00:03:39,920 talking about how to kill him right this 90 00:03:44,500 --> 00:03:41,959 is one of the ways that Lee Oswalt was 91 00:03:47,199 --> 00:03:44,510 able to get information and that that's 92 00:03:49,390 --> 00:03:47,209 why he it helped him to penetrate so 93 00:03:51,729 --> 00:03:49,400 you'll find over 500 pages in the book 94 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:51,739 David Ferrie mafia pilot it's the only 95 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:53,090 book ever been written about David 96 00:03:57,190 --> 00:03:55,010 Ferrie of course for people out there 97 00:03:59,310 --> 00:03:57,200 who don't know who he might be Joe Pesci 98 00:04:02,729 --> 00:03:59,320 played that character in the film JFK 99 00:04:06,250 --> 00:04:02,739 and he is the first murder that you see 100 00:04:06,699 --> 00:04:06,260 in in that film so I just wanted to say 101 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:06,709 that 102 00:04:13,630 --> 00:04:10,250 Lee Oswald knew him yeah I met Lee by 103 00:04:15,759 --> 00:04:13,640 accident it seemed that way actually we 104 00:04:18,190 --> 00:04:15,769 know now that it had to have been set up 105 00:04:21,699 --> 00:04:18,200 because they knew I was going to the 106 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:21,709 post office all that I was invited to 107 00:04:28,300 --> 00:04:25,250 participate in a cancer research project 108 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:28,310 with dr. Mary Sherman Merritt dr. Barry 109 00:04:32,590 --> 00:04:30,770 Sherman is famous today for different 110 00:04:35,350 --> 00:04:32,600 reasons than she was back then she was a 111 00:04:37,930 --> 00:04:35,360 famed oncologist and cancer researcher 112 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:37,940 your papers were always being quoted she 113 00:04:42,790 --> 00:04:40,970 was someone that I just admired so much 114 00:04:45,580 --> 00:04:42,800 and she was working with dr. Alton 115 00:04:47,140 --> 00:04:45,590 Ochsner in New Orleans and actually I've 116 00:04:49,029 --> 00:04:47,150 been overseeing when I was doing for 117 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:49,039 quite a while we have all the newspaper 118 00:04:54,790 --> 00:04:51,650 articles and everything showing up the 119 00:04:57,700 --> 00:04:54,800 group of dr. Alton Ochsner dr. George 120 00:04:59,890 --> 00:04:57,710 Moore and dr. Harold deal they went 121 00:05:02,830 --> 00:04:59,900 around testifying about the dangers of 122 00:05:05,020 --> 00:05:02,840 cancer if people smoked and they went - 123 00:05:08,110 --> 00:05:05,030 together - trials and all that and they 124 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:08,120 met me and mentored me because I've 125 00:05:11,469 --> 00:05:08,930 given my 126 00:05:13,719 --> 00:05:11,479 cancer in only seven days you can read 127 00:05:16,570 --> 00:05:13,729 about all the details of that in the 128 00:05:19,150 --> 00:05:16,580 book me and Lee mm-hmm okay so here I 129 00:05:21,820 --> 00:05:19,160 was you know invited to New Orleans and 130 00:05:23,439 --> 00:05:21,830 I was so excited but I was invited two 131 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:23,449 weeks early and my doctors were out of 132 00:05:27,879 --> 00:05:25,970 town briefly when I got there they 133 00:05:29,529 --> 00:05:27,889 weren't there and I had nowhere to go I 134 00:05:31,900 --> 00:05:29,539 didn't want to go back to my parents if 135 00:05:34,330 --> 00:05:31,910 you read the book you'll see why but 136 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:34,340 here there are special reasons why I was 137 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:36,770 invited I was invited because for 138 00:05:41,770 --> 00:05:39,410 example I had worked in dr. Georges wars 139 00:05:44,140 --> 00:05:41,780 own private laboratory at Roswell Park 140 00:05:48,219 --> 00:05:44,150 Institute and also went to seminars 141 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:48,229 there that were run by dr. Moran but the 142 00:05:52,629 --> 00:05:50,570 main thing I was working with first I 143 00:05:54,129 --> 00:05:52,639 was working with dr. more what's 144 00:05:57,670 --> 00:05:54,139 important about this is there's a 145 00:06:01,060 --> 00:05:57,680 formula called the RPM i 1640 and is 146 00:06:03,310 --> 00:06:01,070 still used today this formula was being 147 00:06:04,570 --> 00:06:03,320 created at the time I was there and 148 00:06:08,110 --> 00:06:04,580 would come out a few years later 149 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:08,120 perfected but I had the formula to grow 150 00:06:12,339 --> 00:06:10,490 cancer faster than anybody in the 151 00:06:16,150 --> 00:06:12,349 newspapers you'll see that I was given 152 00:06:18,219 --> 00:06:16,160 the read a order actually to start 153 00:06:20,710 --> 00:06:18,229 researching on how to make cancer more 154 00:06:22,990 --> 00:06:20,720 deadly and the excuse they gave me was 155 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:23,000 that after all if we can find out what 156 00:06:26,649 --> 00:06:24,289 makes it grow that will give us an idea 157 00:06:29,110 --> 00:06:26,659 of how to kill it you see that's the 158 00:06:32,710 --> 00:06:29,120 approach they use actually they were in 159 00:06:36,670 --> 00:06:32,720 a process it started on March 23rd 1962 160 00:06:38,649 --> 00:06:36,680 to weaponize cancer because they CIA 161 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:38,659 tried all kinds of ways to kill Fidel 162 00:06:42,580 --> 00:06:41,210 Castro and they had not succeeded they 163 00:06:45,159 --> 00:06:42,590 didn't want the United States to be 164 00:06:47,490 --> 00:06:45,169 blamed here he smoked cigars like a 165 00:06:50,020 --> 00:06:47,500 maniac you know one after the other and 166 00:06:52,180 --> 00:06:50,030 being sent to New Orleans in out of 167 00:06:54,879 --> 00:06:52,190 Florida and out of sight out of mind you 168 00:06:57,189 --> 00:06:54,889 might say I was practically untraceable 169 00:07:00,250 --> 00:06:57,199 in fact while I was in New Orleans I was 170 00:07:02,860 --> 00:07:00,260 Judy Baker I mean to t very but I 171 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:02,870 married Robert Baker while I was there 172 00:07:07,870 --> 00:07:04,849 when I was kicked out of that program 173 00:07:09,219 --> 00:07:07,880 for protesting for the use of prisoners 174 00:07:11,409 --> 00:07:09,229 they were going to be injected as 175 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:11,419 volunteers with this material that had 176 00:07:15,850 --> 00:07:13,370 been developed if it worked it would 177 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:15,860 kill them and I've been told originally 178 00:07:20,050 --> 00:07:17,810 they had terminal illnesses turned out 179 00:07:22,870 --> 00:07:20,060 they were perfectly healthy hmm they 180 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:22,880 resembled Castro in size height 181 00:07:28,090 --> 00:07:26,090 genetic characteristics at least one of 182 00:07:29,470 --> 00:07:28,100 them did I saw one prisoner lease on 183 00:07:32,500 --> 00:07:29,480 another so we know there had to be at 184 00:07:35,740 --> 00:07:32,510 least 2 so that's background on that now 185 00:07:38,230 --> 00:07:35,750 I arrived in New Orleans and expect I 186 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:38,240 think to be working with dr. Sherman so 187 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:40,490 excited and there on South America I 188 00:07:44,260 --> 00:07:42,250 think came two weeks early because 189 00:07:46,090 --> 00:07:44,270 University of Florida got out on 190 00:07:49,690 --> 00:07:46,100 schedule different it was trimester 191 00:07:51,870 --> 00:07:49,700 cysts kejal hmm so there i am and i io 192 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:51,880 a-- had $42 that's equivalent to about 193 00:07:56,350 --> 00:07:54,890 $400 today that's not an awful lot if 194 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:56,360 you're don't know where you're going and 195 00:08:02,350 --> 00:07:58,250 there's and they don't want you nobody's 196 00:08:04,870 --> 00:08:02,360 paying your way i know yeah it was scary 197 00:08:06,790 --> 00:08:04,880 so at the YWCA they say i'm sorry you're 198 00:08:07,780 --> 00:08:06,800 not on the record yet i said but you 199 00:08:10,060 --> 00:08:07,790 know i was invited 200 00:08:12,150 --> 00:08:10,070 here's my ticket you know the doctor had 201 00:08:14,650 --> 00:08:12,160 paid for my ticket to get to New Orleans 202 00:08:17,620 --> 00:08:14,660 well you have to wait till they get back 203 00:08:19,810 --> 00:08:17,630 sorry lady you know mm-hmm there's 204 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:19,820 nothing there for me and oh my gosh well 205 00:08:25,450 --> 00:08:22,610 I decided I paid the least I couldn't 206 00:08:27,580 --> 00:08:25,460 and moved in to one of the room that 207 00:08:31,870 --> 00:08:27,590 already had four girls in it there to 208 00:08:34,570 --> 00:08:31,880 'extra purrs and a Playboy bunny and a 209 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:34,580 tough waitress okay and they're all 210 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:36,770 young girls but they're already getting 211 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:38,810 kind of brassy and tough because of what 212 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:41,210 they were doing and I had to pay one of 213 00:08:45,220 --> 00:08:42,770 them 25 cents a day so she wouldn't 214 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:45,230 steal my stuff that she was guarding it 215 00:08:49,180 --> 00:08:47,450 you know okay yeah you know so nobody 216 00:08:51,820 --> 00:08:49,190 would steal a little stripper mob going 217 00:08:54,490 --> 00:08:51,830 on right all right so they were taking 218 00:08:57,580 --> 00:08:54,500 me around I saw strip joints and I I 219 00:08:59,590 --> 00:08:57,590 went to this show bar and in the back 220 00:09:00,820 --> 00:08:59,600 rooms and watch the girls put pasties on 221 00:09:02,650 --> 00:09:00,830 these are things that we're really 222 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:02,660 different from what the experience I'd 223 00:09:06,430 --> 00:09:04,850 have in human body which was testing for 224 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:06,440 cancer and things like that 225 00:09:11,710 --> 00:09:09,890 mm-hmm so um it was shocking and here 226 00:09:13,090 --> 00:09:11,720 I'm waiting for my fiance to come I 227 00:09:15,910 --> 00:09:13,100 didn't want to tell him what I was doing 228 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:15,920 because I was afraid if he knew I was 229 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:18,650 offered a job not only this job for the 230 00:09:24,100 --> 00:09:21,290 summer which was I got a stipend for it 231 00:09:25,930 --> 00:09:24,110 and all expenses paid and so on but in 232 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:25,940 the fall I would read it I would be able 233 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:28,370 to enter Tulane Medical School two years 234 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:31,730 at a time I was in a word of Robert 235 00:09:35,890 --> 00:09:34,730 Baker he had an IQ of 186 I think that 236 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:35,900 was where fast 237 00:09:41,079 --> 00:09:38,450 with that than anything else in fact he 238 00:09:42,870 --> 00:09:41,089 was fairly good-looking he guy to and 239 00:09:46,420 --> 00:09:42,880 could play a good game of chess and I 240 00:09:48,430 --> 00:09:46,430 mistook sex for love people do that he 241 00:09:51,370 --> 00:09:48,440 was so different with Lee Oswald and 242 00:09:54,579 --> 00:09:51,380 that that was real love anyway there I 243 00:09:56,769 --> 00:09:54,589 am in New Orleans and Robert said he'd 244 00:09:57,490 --> 00:09:56,779 come and marry me and he didn't ask me 245 00:09:59,890 --> 00:09:57,500 so I'm coming 246 00:10:01,930 --> 00:09:59,900 but first I have to clear with my folks 247 00:10:03,460 --> 00:10:01,940 well he hadn't planned to go into New 248 00:10:05,380 --> 00:10:03,470 Orleans so it took him a while to get 249 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:05,390 there but I told him I was going to stay 250 00:10:10,300 --> 00:10:08,450 there all summer and I didn't want to 251 00:10:11,769 --> 00:10:10,310 tell him everything because I was afraid 252 00:10:13,900 --> 00:10:11,779 he wouldn't marry me he still had 253 00:10:17,050 --> 00:10:13,910 another semester to go at University of 254 00:10:19,870 --> 00:10:17,060 Florida and he had switched to geology 255 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:19,880 so I said look come to New Orleans come 256 00:10:23,410 --> 00:10:21,770 on follow me here you can get a job here 257 00:10:24,460 --> 00:10:23,420 there are a lot of oil companies you 258 00:10:27,250 --> 00:10:24,470 know and so on 259 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:27,260 check out the schools would be wonderful 260 00:10:32,829 --> 00:10:29,810 for you to you know get your masters 261 00:10:35,500 --> 00:10:32,839 here in geology so I convinced him to 262 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:35,510 come well he course he was delayed 263 00:10:39,820 --> 00:10:37,970 because his parents had no idea and he 264 00:10:42,130 --> 00:10:39,830 didn't want to tell them about me 265 00:10:43,210 --> 00:10:42,140 because I was came from a Catholic 266 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:43,220 family 267 00:10:47,949 --> 00:10:45,050 I had a Hungarian blood in me and they 268 00:10:51,070 --> 00:10:47,959 were very white and I was well his 269 00:10:54,130 --> 00:10:51,080 mother said I was swarthy had swarthy 270 00:10:57,550 --> 00:10:54,140 skin you know yeah you know and even 271 00:10:59,440 --> 00:10:57,560 like blue eyes you know this way yeah 272 00:11:01,510 --> 00:10:59,450 she said look she can eat doesn't even 273 00:11:04,750 --> 00:11:01,520 have to wear nylons her skin is so 274 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:04,760 swarthy dark she could have said can do 275 00:11:10,930 --> 00:11:07,970 you know how rude yeah oh my goodness 276 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:10,940 that woman to say so many things to me 277 00:11:14,050 --> 00:11:12,770 when the others weren't around well 278 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:14,060 anyway you can read about it in the book 279 00:11:18,070 --> 00:11:16,610 and so he didn't want that his parents 280 00:11:20,560 --> 00:11:18,080 didn't know anything about it so I I 281 00:11:22,870 --> 00:11:20,570 even wrote it was only allowed to write 282 00:11:24,190 --> 00:11:22,880 one letter to him and I also put an ad 283 00:11:28,510 --> 00:11:24,200 in the paper because he was afraid to 284 00:11:30,850 --> 00:11:28,520 call all this fear you know well so I 285 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:30,860 was going to the post office all the 286 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:32,450 time to see because he promised to write 287 00:11:38,050 --> 00:11:34,490 every day well dadgum it he didn't do 288 00:11:39,490 --> 00:11:38,060 that and I was angry and like three or 289 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:39,500 four days had gone by and he said he 290 00:11:45,940 --> 00:11:42,770 write every single day I mean no just no 291 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:45,950 letter so obviously people could see 292 00:11:49,630 --> 00:11:47,930 that I was visiting there every day I 293 00:11:52,540 --> 00:11:49,640 had gotten a part-time job 294 00:11:55,780 --> 00:11:52,550 at royal castle which is a long bus ride 295 00:11:58,660 --> 00:11:55,790 way out an airline drive in kenner 296 00:12:00,519 --> 00:11:58,670 but the waitress was leaving that job 297 00:12:02,290 --> 00:12:00,529 and they took me on part time in the 298 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:02,300 morning until they could find somebody 299 00:12:06,100 --> 00:12:04,130 for full-time you know and I'd of course 300 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:06,110 wouldn't want to stay I mean it's hard 301 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:08,450 to get income anyway it was enough to 302 00:12:13,449 --> 00:12:11,450 help pay my bill at the YWCA this is 303 00:12:17,019 --> 00:12:13,459 important because it looked very strange 304 00:12:18,970 --> 00:12:17,029 at Lee Oswald now Lee did come and to 305 00:12:22,660 --> 00:12:18,980 the post office and I thought it was all 306 00:12:25,180 --> 00:12:22,670 an accident he actually actually they 307 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:25,190 must have known Lee said later he would 308 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:26,810 tell me that he actually arrives a day 309 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:29,930 before now I'm standing in line here 310 00:12:35,019 --> 00:12:32,450 I've started I write this one letter and 311 00:12:38,350 --> 00:12:35,029 I put an envelope and I mark it on there 312 00:12:40,630 --> 00:12:38,360 that is from it says our Roark you know 313 00:12:42,940 --> 00:12:40,640 well he told me Robert told me to put 314 00:12:46,030 --> 00:12:42,950 this prints may have the male name on 315 00:12:50,530 --> 00:12:46,040 there Roark and it was set to rob our a 316 00:12:52,060 --> 00:12:50,540 baker okay Robert a baker at Eglin Air 317 00:12:56,290 --> 00:12:52,070 Force Base where his parents were 318 00:12:59,019 --> 00:12:56,300 actually erecting some housing for you 319 00:13:00,880 --> 00:12:59,029 know for the military out there so they 320 00:13:03,939 --> 00:13:00,890 were getting their mail out there Oh 321 00:13:06,939 --> 00:13:03,949 Fort Lee Oswald looking at this he told 322 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:06,949 me later he saw an envelope it looked 323 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:10,730 like it said our eighth birthday the-- 324 00:13:14,889 --> 00:13:12,890 the cursive our I wrote looks a lot like 325 00:13:18,340 --> 00:13:14,899 an A and the Roark 326 00:13:21,790 --> 00:13:18,350 he knew Alexander Rourke and Jeffrey 327 00:13:25,210 --> 00:13:21,800 Sullivan the CIA associated pilots and 328 00:13:29,259 --> 00:13:25,220 he he had recently later he would tell 329 00:13:32,259 --> 00:13:29,269 me he recently met work Alex Roark Alex 330 00:13:34,780 --> 00:13:32,269 would be the pilot and do would try to 331 00:13:37,060 --> 00:13:34,790 get me to pick me up and the day that 332 00:13:41,319 --> 00:13:37,070 Lee Oswald actually crossed over into 333 00:13:43,269 --> 00:13:41,329 Mexico okay hey at Laredo there I was 334 00:13:45,100 --> 00:13:43,279 supposed to get on a plane that was 335 00:13:48,250 --> 00:13:45,110 going to be flown I was going to be 336 00:13:51,790 --> 00:13:48,260 flown in by work and Sullivan that plane 337 00:13:53,519 --> 00:13:51,800 was shot down that day and they've gone 338 00:13:56,620 --> 00:13:53,529 missing they've been missing ever since 339 00:13:58,540 --> 00:13:56,630 it's it was a frightening thing because 340 00:14:01,720 --> 00:13:58,550 we suspected that this was no accident 341 00:14:03,369 --> 00:14:01,730 that Cubans shot them down but maybe you 342 00:14:06,189 --> 00:14:03,379 know an attempt to make sure 343 00:14:08,409 --> 00:14:06,199 that he Lee and I would never be able to 344 00:14:11,439 --> 00:14:08,419 get away they were setting up there in 345 00:14:13,029 --> 00:14:11,449 Mexico City all kinds of ways to frame 346 00:14:16,269 --> 00:14:13,039 Lee Oswald and I would have been an 347 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:16,279 impediment to that because we met and we 348 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:18,410 were going to try to get out of there we 349 00:14:23,289 --> 00:14:19,970 were going to go to the Cayman Islands 350 00:14:25,869 --> 00:14:23,299 and everything Lee left his in fact he 351 00:14:28,359 --> 00:14:25,879 left his suit you can see in pictures 352 00:14:30,669 --> 00:14:28,369 Lee in his suit that he had from the 353 00:14:34,089 --> 00:14:30,679 Soviet Union a dark suit that he wore 354 00:14:37,239 --> 00:14:34,099 for interviews on August no right after 355 00:14:39,729 --> 00:14:37,249 August 9th around August 1517 somewhere 356 00:14:41,739 --> 00:14:39,739 in there because he looked very nice 357 00:14:44,409 --> 00:14:41,749 that suit is missing from all the 358 00:14:46,329 --> 00:14:44,419 collections of his personal items Leigha 359 00:14:48,759 --> 00:14:46,339 actually left a suit and a lot of his 360 00:14:51,129 --> 00:14:48,769 nice clothes in a locker in Laredo and 361 00:14:53,469 --> 00:14:51,139 we have of course a record that the FBI 362 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:53,479 we searched the lockers the bus lockers 363 00:14:58,210 --> 00:14:55,970 and so on in Laredo we also have a 364 00:15:00,399 --> 00:14:58,220 record that they searched the safety 365 00:15:03,189 --> 00:15:00,409 deposit boxes in the two banks in Laredo 366 00:15:06,069 --> 00:15:03,199 so I rent went recently to Laredo and 367 00:15:07,419 --> 00:15:06,079 showed them other records so Lee had 368 00:15:09,849 --> 00:15:07,429 someone there and actually picked him up 369 00:15:12,279 --> 00:15:09,859 Lee did not write a bus back across over 370 00:15:14,199 --> 00:15:12,289 the border they nobody ever saw him do 371 00:15:16,269 --> 00:15:14,209 it they tried to assume that they always 372 00:15:18,069 --> 00:15:16,279 tried to say he's a lone nut but Lee was 373 00:15:21,549 --> 00:15:18,079 associated with others who were with the 374 00:15:23,229 --> 00:15:21,559 CIA and so on all right I'm giving you 375 00:15:25,659 --> 00:15:23,239 the background information because least 376 00:15:28,210 --> 00:15:25,669 looking at this our Roarke and thinks 377 00:15:31,599 --> 00:15:28,220 it's an aid work and it's to Robert a 378 00:15:34,659 --> 00:15:31,609 baker at Eglin Air Force Base and that's 379 00:15:36,969 --> 00:15:34,669 where it turned out that you have an FBI 380 00:15:39,609 --> 00:15:36,979 agent that Lee knew his name was Robert 381 00:15:41,769 --> 00:15:39,619 a baker hmm so you've got Roark and 382 00:15:44,049 --> 00:15:41,779 Baker on the same envelope I'm handing 383 00:15:46,599 --> 00:15:44,059 it over looks like I'm a courier of some 384 00:15:48,579 --> 00:15:46,609 kind right that's what Lee thought hmm 385 00:15:50,919 --> 00:15:48,589 then when he finds out later we're 386 00:15:53,710 --> 00:15:50,929 walking along that I was worked at royal 387 00:15:56,529 --> 00:15:53,720 castle that royal castle out there on 388 00:15:59,799 --> 00:15:56,539 airline was just a few blocks from Town 389 00:16:02,379 --> 00:15:59,809 and Country Inn Bobby Kennedy's team was 390 00:16:05,409 --> 00:16:02,389 out there doing surveillance 24 hours a 391 00:16:08,349 --> 00:16:05,419 day using that Royal Castle every day 392 00:16:10,359 --> 00:16:08,359 and all night watching the comings and 393 00:16:13,329 --> 00:16:10,369 goings because that's where carlos 394 00:16:15,279 --> 00:16:13,339 marcello the kingpin of the mafia that 395 00:16:17,500 --> 00:16:15,289 bobby kennedy hated and he of course 396 00:16:19,930 --> 00:16:17,510 marcelo hated kennedy that's 397 00:16:21,910 --> 00:16:19,940 where he was located and here I'm going 398 00:16:24,370 --> 00:16:21,920 out there for only a couple hours every 399 00:16:25,990 --> 00:16:24,380 morning early in the morning and I go 400 00:16:28,150 --> 00:16:26,000 back I mean all the way into New Orleans 401 00:16:30,100 --> 00:16:28,160 nobody in their right mind would just 402 00:16:31,930 --> 00:16:30,110 work a couple hours at least said you 403 00:16:33,970 --> 00:16:31,940 know he's saying why would she be out 404 00:16:36,250 --> 00:16:33,980 there just a couple of hours and then 405 00:16:38,590 --> 00:16:36,260 leave she may be she's currying he 406 00:16:40,990 --> 00:16:38,600 thought aha she's got a courage B curry 407 00:16:42,940 --> 00:16:41,000 your job you know just like this Alex 408 00:16:45,550 --> 00:16:42,950 work thing that's obviously that wasn't 409 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:45,560 me and I'd put that on the unload on top 410 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:47,570 of that I had put this and the paper and 411 00:16:52,540 --> 00:16:50,450 I had carried it under my arm around 412 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:52,550 with me for several days because and I 413 00:16:56,860 --> 00:16:54,170 just had circled it and I kissed it with 414 00:16:58,720 --> 00:16:56,870 lipstick and it was in code Robert said 415 00:17:00,220 --> 00:16:58,730 put something in the paper so I know you 416 00:17:02,380 --> 00:17:00,230 got there if I use the phone they'll 417 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:02,390 know I made a long-distance call to New 418 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:03,770 Orleans you know and he didn't want that 419 00:17:10,780 --> 00:17:07,250 and so I put to Jah Rio and pretty hair 420 00:17:13,689 --> 00:17:10,790 and you know and right and all that well 421 00:17:15,730 --> 00:17:13,699 when I put that envelope on the counter 422 00:17:18,310 --> 00:17:15,740 I dropped I dropped the rolled-up 423 00:17:21,340 --> 00:17:18,320 newspaper and Lee's standing behind me 424 00:17:23,470 --> 00:17:21,350 he picks it up now I'm Eric ated because 425 00:17:24,850 --> 00:17:23,480 Robert Baker he hadn't written and I'm 426 00:17:27,790 --> 00:17:24,860 not married to him yet 427 00:17:30,490 --> 00:17:27,800 I'm still a free woman and I look at 428 00:17:32,290 --> 00:17:30,500 this nice-looking guy behind me hands me 429 00:17:34,810 --> 00:17:32,300 the newspaper and I thought I'm gonna 430 00:17:37,780 --> 00:17:34,820 use this some kind of I'm gonna you know 431 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:37,790 break the ice with him and so I said in 432 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:39,290 Russian because I thought he'd say what 433 00:17:43,660 --> 00:17:42,050 did you say I said cut a shot the 434 00:17:45,370 --> 00:17:43,670 batteries you know like that but in 435 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:45,380 other words well done comrade when he 436 00:17:50,230 --> 00:17:47,570 handed the paper back to me mm-hmm and 437 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:50,240 Lee answered me in Russian it just blew 438 00:17:53,530 --> 00:17:50,690 me away 439 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:53,540 he said it's not why is to speak Russian 440 00:17:58,780 --> 00:17:56,330 in New Orleans I mean you even did knock 441 00:18:01,390 --> 00:17:58,790 me over with a set feathered it was it 442 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:01,400 was my grand way of saying hello to a 443 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:04,010 guy why did I even flirt with him well I 444 00:18:07,990 --> 00:18:06,170 did it because first I was angry second 445 00:18:09,910 --> 00:18:08,000 he didn't have a wedding ring on his 446 00:18:12,100 --> 00:18:09,920 hand or so I thought 447 00:18:14,310 --> 00:18:12,110 soon I would notice that he did have a 448 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:14,320 wedding ring it was on his right hand 449 00:18:19,420 --> 00:18:16,970 because Lee was married in Russia and 450 00:18:22,210 --> 00:18:19,430 just like my grandma did she was 451 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:22,220 Hungarian he wore his wedding ring on 452 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:24,170 his right hand it says the left so I was 453 00:18:29,050 --> 00:18:26,930 fooled see I would done that so people 454 00:18:30,850 --> 00:18:29,060 need to know that you know 455 00:18:32,890 --> 00:18:30,860 yeah it's an important point for your 456 00:18:35,050 --> 00:18:32,900 character that's right I don't think you 457 00:18:38,530 --> 00:18:35,060 mentioned this yet but Lee was also a 458 00:18:40,660 --> 00:18:38,540 runner for this ring of secret labs you 459 00:18:42,460 --> 00:18:40,670 were involved with right yes that's how 460 00:18:44,050 --> 00:18:42,470 it turned out originally he was not 461 00:18:45,220 --> 00:18:44,060 going to be doing that originally he was 462 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:45,230 going to be a photographer in New 463 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:47,930 Orleans and then he learned that pervert 464 00:18:52,030 --> 00:18:49,610 Philbrick who was his when he was a 465 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:52,040 child that was his Herald Philbrick was 466 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:53,930 had written the book you know I led 467 00:19:00,490 --> 00:18:56,770 three lives and Lee had seen him on TV 468 00:19:02,410 --> 00:19:00,500 six or seven episodes in New York now 469 00:19:04,660 --> 00:19:02,420 his brother thought it was in Texas and 470 00:19:07,300 --> 00:19:04,670 so then they discounted that discredited 471 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:07,310 that because Lee's brother Robert said 472 00:19:11,350 --> 00:19:09,290 Oh Lee saw those in Texas it was his 473 00:19:14,020 --> 00:19:11,360 favorite show but it wasn't playing at 474 00:19:16,210 --> 00:19:14,030 Texas at that time but it was playing in 475 00:19:18,970 --> 00:19:16,220 New York when Lee was there with his 476 00:19:21,370 --> 00:19:18,980 mother when Lee was around 12 years old 477 00:19:22,750 --> 00:19:21,380 so he did see some episodes and he told 478 00:19:24,730 --> 00:19:22,760 me this maybe they brought tears 479 00:19:27,250 --> 00:19:24,740 suicides he wanted to do the same thing 480 00:19:28,900 --> 00:19:27,260 he wanted to be a spy he wanted to do 481 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:28,910 like Philbrick did pretending to be a 482 00:19:33,670 --> 00:19:31,250 communist and at the same time he'd be 483 00:19:36,430 --> 00:19:33,680 handing over information to the FBI and 484 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:36,440 his desire was to enter the USSR while 485 00:19:40,300 --> 00:19:38,810 he was still a teenager hmm so this was 486 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:40,310 stuck with him he tried to join the 487 00:19:46,060 --> 00:19:43,010 Marines when he was 16 he think he had a 488 00:19:47,890 --> 00:19:46,070 faked birth certificate this is how much 489 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:47,900 he wanted to you know serve our country 490 00:19:52,990 --> 00:19:51,050 mm-hmm he did join a 17 you'll see in 491 00:19:54,910 --> 00:19:53,000 Wikipedia and other places they say he 492 00:19:56,830 --> 00:19:54,920 dropped out of school they don't mention 493 00:19:58,690 --> 00:19:56,840 that he got his GED when he was in the 494 00:20:01,240 --> 00:19:58,700 Marines he dropped out of school in 495 00:20:03,730 --> 00:20:01,250 order to join the Marines they don't put 496 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:03,740 that in that context they say they make 497 00:20:07,090 --> 00:20:05,330 him look like a real failure he dropped 498 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:07,100 out you know and then they have 499 00:20:10,780 --> 00:20:08,690 paragraphs and then they say he joined 500 00:20:12,730 --> 00:20:10,790 the Marines and well actually he dropped 501 00:20:16,270 --> 00:20:12,740 out right away in order to join the 502 00:20:19,150 --> 00:20:16,280 Marines his heart was set on serving his 503 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:19,160 country he was reading Marx he was 504 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:21,530 reading angles he was reading Lenin and 505 00:20:25,660 --> 00:20:23,930 all these communist literature that the 506 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:25,670 Warren Commission says he was reading 507 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:27,890 when he was so young starting when he 508 00:20:32,260 --> 00:20:30,050 was what he was couldn't have been more 509 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:32,270 than 13 when he began reading all this 510 00:20:36,850 --> 00:20:35,090 and you smart very smart but what they 511 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:36,860 don't mention is he was reading Thomas 512 00:20:41,530 --> 00:20:38,810 Jefferson he was reading the Federalist 513 00:20:44,650 --> 00:20:41,540 Papers he was reading Leviathan he was 514 00:20:46,810 --> 00:20:44,660 the great works written by our American 515 00:20:48,490 --> 00:20:46,820 patriots our fathers our founding 516 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:48,500 fathers they don't mention that he was 517 00:20:53,140 --> 00:20:50,450 reading both sides right and knew very 518 00:20:55,150 --> 00:20:53,150 much about both sides obviously there's 519 00:20:57,580 --> 00:20:55,160 been a lot of character assassination of 520 00:20:59,500 --> 00:20:57,590 course they do and and of course they've 521 00:21:02,730 --> 00:20:59,510 done it even to everyone they possibly 522 00:21:06,490 --> 00:21:02,740 can even to President Kennedy their 523 00:21:10,090 --> 00:21:06,500 focus on his foibles and his sins 524 00:21:12,580 --> 00:21:10,100 without so the people don't realize the 525 00:21:14,740 --> 00:21:12,590 great the greatness of this president 526 00:21:17,020 --> 00:21:14,750 and we fortunately we have the devil's 527 00:21:19,930 --> 00:21:17,030 chess board that book out there by David 528 00:21:22,690 --> 00:21:19,940 Talbott and we also have JFK an 529 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:22,700 unspeakable by James Douglas these two 530 00:21:27,610 --> 00:21:24,970 books really showed the courage and the 531 00:21:29,770 --> 00:21:27,620 greatness of this president this 532 00:21:32,410 --> 00:21:29,780 president had to be murdered had to be 533 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:32,420 got out of the way so that a man who's 534 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:34,730 an overriding ambition was to become 535 00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:36,170 president more than anything in the 536 00:21:40,540 --> 00:21:38,720 world Lyndon Johnson could come in try 537 00:21:42,430 --> 00:21:40,550 to take his place even to the point that 538 00:21:43,950 --> 00:21:42,440 Lyndon Johnson got himself a rocking 539 00:21:47,710 --> 00:21:43,960 chair so he'd look like 540 00:21:50,050 --> 00:21:47,720 JFK hmm man so I also really wanted to 541 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:50,060 talk to you about the cancer side of 542 00:21:54,310 --> 00:21:51,650 things here you mentioned Alton Ochsner 543 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:54,320 of course people might remember him as 544 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:56,810 the doctor who publicly injected his 545 00:22:00,580 --> 00:21:58,490 grandkids with the polio vaccine to 546 00:22:02,020 --> 00:22:00,590 prove it was safe and then one died 547 00:22:04,660 --> 00:22:02,030 pretty soon after and the other one 548 00:22:07,210 --> 00:22:04,670 contracted polio yeah a week later his 549 00:22:10,330 --> 00:22:07,220 grandson died and the other one guy had 550 00:22:13,780 --> 00:22:10,340 polio Rhodes that taught him a lesson 551 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:13,790 and he even talked to me about this you 552 00:22:19,900 --> 00:22:17,570 see he said look Judy you know we have 553 00:22:22,390 --> 00:22:19,910 all kinds of people out there who trust 554 00:22:25,150 --> 00:22:22,400 their doctors even I trusted my doctors 555 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:25,160 and I had lost I put my children at risk 556 00:22:31,090 --> 00:22:27,890 my grandchildren and he said don't you 557 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:31,100 think that Castro trusts his doctors see 558 00:22:35,530 --> 00:22:32,930 hmm turned out there were a lot of 559 00:22:38,140 --> 00:22:35,540 doctors that pretended to just be his 560 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:38,150 friend but it's not the doctors that had 561 00:22:42,490 --> 00:22:40,250 the problem so much as that we could 562 00:22:44,950 --> 00:22:42,500 really work with the text but a lot of 563 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:44,960 people don't understand is that whereas 564 00:22:51,340 --> 00:22:47,810 maybe Castro's doctors were just as 565 00:22:53,740 --> 00:22:51,350 loyal as they could possibly be when the 566 00:22:54,370 --> 00:22:53,750 doctor asked for a vial of penicillin he 567 00:22:56,740 --> 00:22:54,380 asked 568 00:22:58,930 --> 00:22:56,750 a nurse or a tech they get it out of the 569 00:23:00,760 --> 00:22:58,940 refrigerator or let's put it this way 570 00:23:02,380 --> 00:23:00,770 even if the doctor goes the refrigerator 571 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:02,390 and something's labeled they'll take it 572 00:23:07,390 --> 00:23:05,330 out it was so easy you see you can't see 573 00:23:09,070 --> 00:23:07,400 cancer cells you could put them in a 574 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:09,080 liquid that looks just like any like a 575 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:10,730 dose of penicillin you'd never know 576 00:23:16,090 --> 00:23:13,850 mm-hmm the other thing is that Castro 577 00:23:17,830 --> 00:23:16,100 was getting x-rays about once a year you 578 00:23:19,390 --> 00:23:17,840 got you would get his different shots 579 00:23:21,250 --> 00:23:19,400 because it was out a lot in the jungle 580 00:23:23,110 --> 00:23:21,260 had been in the jungles and so on and 581 00:23:26,290 --> 00:23:23,120 they always checked his health it was 582 00:23:31,060 --> 00:23:26,300 important and he had a DPT shot coming 583 00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:31,070 up I was told and so on well imagine now 584 00:23:34,450 --> 00:23:32,960 if you put this let's go to the 585 00:23:36,190 --> 00:23:34,460 president United States put him in front 586 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:36,200 of an x-ray to see how he's doing and 587 00:23:40,420 --> 00:23:37,850 all of a sudden you know he looks fine 588 00:23:43,810 --> 00:23:40,430 just looks just fine but what do you 589 00:23:46,390 --> 00:23:43,820 know back then if a tech is in charge of 590 00:23:48,850 --> 00:23:46,400 that big x-ray console and it turned it 591 00:23:51,310 --> 00:23:48,860 up and they didn't ask that so think of 592 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:51,320 it that way bring down the immune system 593 00:23:56,590 --> 00:23:53,330 with a big dose of x-rays and that was 594 00:23:59,200 --> 00:23:56,600 part of it the other part is messing up 595 00:24:00,670 --> 00:23:59,210 one of his blood tests that is Kassar 596 00:24:02,260 --> 00:24:00,680 would have what it was going to have 597 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:02,270 some blood mr. Ahn to see how he's doing 598 00:24:06,580 --> 00:24:05,090 do you have anemia you know so on and 599 00:24:08,170 --> 00:24:06,590 you take a smear you put it on the 600 00:24:09,670 --> 00:24:08,180 microscope and you know what if you see 601 00:24:12,250 --> 00:24:09,680 cancer cells running around in that 602 00:24:14,350 --> 00:24:12,260 blood imagine you're gonna put him under 603 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:14,360 the x-ray again and look if you find any 604 00:24:19,450 --> 00:24:17,210 tumors right hmm well it would it be 605 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:19,460 easy to contaminate a slide with cancer 606 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:22,250 cells a tech could do it again and if 607 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:24,050 you're gonna send him in front of x-rays 608 00:24:28,540 --> 00:24:25,970 again and there's another tick that's it 609 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:28,550 is really zapped up then he's gonna get 610 00:24:31,390 --> 00:24:30,410 sick he's going to feel badly then 611 00:24:33,310 --> 00:24:31,400 they're gonna give him like maybe 612 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:33,320 penicillin they're gonna turn make him 613 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:35,570 feel better so we had this kind of 614 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:39,650 arrangement worked out why did these why 615 00:24:43,750 --> 00:24:41,930 do we have this kind of cooperation it 616 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:43,760 wasn't necessarily because they hated 617 00:24:48,670 --> 00:24:46,370 Castro because of what he was doing 618 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:48,680 because a lot of people he would like 619 00:24:53,170 --> 00:24:50,810 what tests it was doing it as a matter 620 00:24:54,670 --> 00:24:53,180 of fact Castro had changed the whole 621 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:54,680 medical system around they weren't 622 00:24:58,870 --> 00:24:56,930 making a lot of money anymore all right 623 00:25:00,690 --> 00:24:58,880 they were on salaries and they were 624 00:25:02,860 --> 00:25:00,700 being sent out to help the peasants 625 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:02,870 mm-hmm the other thing that was going on 626 00:25:07,610 --> 00:25:06,170 is instead of be sent to Ochsner and and 627 00:25:09,500 --> 00:25:07,620 others 628 00:25:11,930 --> 00:25:09,510 to Mayo Clinic or whatever for training 629 00:25:14,180 --> 00:25:11,940 that ochsner got a lot of them these 630 00:25:15,380 --> 00:25:14,190 young Cubans were being sent to the USSR 631 00:25:17,150 --> 00:25:15,390 they and they felt they were getting 632 00:25:18,770 --> 00:25:17,160 inferior training and of course they 633 00:25:20,900 --> 00:25:18,780 could never become famous doctors like 634 00:25:23,660 --> 00:25:20,910 dr. ox there she had a whole bunch of 635 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:23,670 young doctors or those working Aztecs 636 00:25:27,350 --> 00:25:25,530 who wanted to become doctors who are 637 00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:27,360 very dissatisfied with the fact that 638 00:25:32,990 --> 00:25:29,760 they were going to become rich hmm yeah 639 00:25:34,670 --> 00:25:33,000 and it's a massive story but obviously 640 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:34,680 there was several different methods 641 00:25:39,740 --> 00:25:37,650 discussed to get Castro and obviously in 642 00:25:42,710 --> 00:25:39,750 the end we know that didn't happen but 643 00:25:44,810 --> 00:25:42,720 well I was I feel like we were so naive 644 00:25:48,290 --> 00:25:44,820 I remember I don't when Lee was only 23 645 00:25:51,169 --> 00:25:48,300 I was 19 when I met him and we believed 646 00:25:54,770 --> 00:25:51,179 our leaders we believed ochsner we 647 00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:54,780 believed these eminent doctors but when 648 00:26:00,200 --> 00:25:57,360 the you know what when Lee was supposed 649 00:26:02,900 --> 00:26:00,210 to take that bioweapon all the way to 650 00:26:06,169 --> 00:26:02,910 Mexico City and hand it off if you think 651 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:06,179 about it would we really risk handing 652 00:26:12,770 --> 00:26:09,210 over a biological weapon to a Cuban all 653 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:12,780 right bottom line we were fooled but it 654 00:26:17,660 --> 00:26:15,690 brought Lee Oswald into Mexico City and 655 00:26:20,690 --> 00:26:17,670 it was able they were able to frame him 656 00:26:26,750 --> 00:26:20,700 there and we have fake telephone calls 657 00:26:28,850 --> 00:26:26,760 to kostikova USSR assassin we have all 658 00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:28,860 kinds of shenanigans going on to make 659 00:26:32,900 --> 00:26:31,110 the Lee Oswald look like he really 660 00:26:34,910 --> 00:26:32,910 wanted to go to Cuba more anything the 661 00:26:37,220 --> 00:26:34,920 world well in the end he did try to get 662 00:26:39,230 --> 00:26:37,230 in mm-hmm he hoped he could get this 663 00:26:41,930 --> 00:26:39,240 material in himself but there was a 664 00:26:43,820 --> 00:26:41,940 shelf-life on it you know after a few 665 00:26:45,380 --> 00:26:43,830 days you have to change the fluid 666 00:26:48,860 --> 00:26:45,390 leading you how to do that make one 667 00:26:51,740 --> 00:26:48,870 change to get new fluid into this this 668 00:26:53,870 --> 00:26:51,750 cancer soup you know but the problem 669 00:26:56,570 --> 00:26:53,880 that you then face is how it you you 670 00:26:59,000 --> 00:26:56,580 can't live in a thermos glass you know 671 00:27:00,490 --> 00:26:59,010 glass like thermos like a big test tube 672 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:00,500 can't live in there forever 673 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:04,770 now so Lee after a few days he has a two 674 00:27:09,620 --> 00:27:07,010 weeks visa and here he's trying 675 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:09,630 arduously to get into Cuba but all of a 676 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:11,730 sudden he gives up and he's only been a 677 00:27:16,790 --> 00:27:13,770 few days and he returns while he was 678 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:16,800 ordered to return but all of a sudden 679 00:27:21,470 --> 00:27:19,530 Lee Oswald never talks about Cuba again 680 00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:21,480 he never tries to go to Kew 681 00:27:26,810 --> 00:27:24,480 again he is his birthday comes and 682 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:26,820 there's some indication that he actually 683 00:27:31,430 --> 00:27:29,730 got the transit visa at that time he 684 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:31,440 ignores it he doesn't even think about 685 00:27:37,340 --> 00:27:34,530 going to Cuba again why aren't the 686 00:27:39,740 --> 00:27:37,350 project had been cancelled project was 687 00:27:42,049 --> 00:27:39,750 over so they told him he could go back 688 00:27:45,669 --> 00:27:42,059 around Christmastime he could return to 689 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:45,679 Mexico City they wanted to us to go to 690 00:27:51,140 --> 00:27:48,330 university by then we knew we're under 691 00:27:53,810 --> 00:27:51,150 lots of suspicion we planned to kind of 692 00:27:55,789 --> 00:27:53,820 just hide we had all kinds of things you 693 00:27:58,490 --> 00:27:55,799 could read about all our plans and what 694 00:28:01,220 --> 00:27:58,500 we intended to do now what's interesting 695 00:28:02,510 --> 00:28:01,230 I think to the people here is is that 696 00:28:05,140 --> 00:28:02,520 they need to know that 697 00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:05,150 Lee Oswald was a very brave man and 698 00:28:09,470 --> 00:28:07,679 because of David Ferrie who had got this 699 00:28:12,620 --> 00:28:09,480 information and I talked about in the 700 00:28:14,630 --> 00:28:12,630 beginning Lee was able to penetrate some 701 00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:14,640 of the groups that were in Dallas they 702 00:28:19,850 --> 00:28:16,559 had told him as I said that he could 703 00:28:22,070 --> 00:28:19,860 return her around Christmas so he did 704 00:28:24,380 --> 00:28:22,080 not get a permanent job the job that he 705 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:24,390 got that he was that was arranged for 706 00:28:28,370 --> 00:28:26,090 him at the Texas School Book Depository 707 00:28:30,620 --> 00:28:28,380 was just a temporary job 708 00:28:33,470 --> 00:28:30,630 they were always laying off people in 709 00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:33,480 fact they made room for him when you 710 00:28:36,710 --> 00:28:35,520 have a school year has already begun and 711 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:36,720 most of the books have been shipped out 712 00:28:41,659 --> 00:28:39,090 you do not need another book cart and 713 00:28:43,340 --> 00:28:41,669 handler to locate books when you already 714 00:28:45,770 --> 00:28:43,350 have two of them they already had two 715 00:28:47,810 --> 00:28:45,780 clerks that were picking out books for 716 00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:47,820 other boxes and bring him down to be 717 00:28:52,940 --> 00:28:49,679 shipped off and they were already laying 718 00:28:55,130 --> 00:28:52,950 off other people Lee was actually in in 719 00:28:57,409 --> 00:28:55,140 this Texas School Book Depository he was 720 00:28:59,870 --> 00:28:57,419 placed there on purpose and he told me 721 00:29:01,669 --> 00:28:59,880 you know this is even better than Riley 722 00:29:03,799 --> 00:29:01,679 where he had to clock out and I would 723 00:29:05,630 --> 00:29:03,809 cover for him and you would clock in I 724 00:29:08,510 --> 00:29:05,640 should say I'd usually clock him out 725 00:29:11,180 --> 00:29:08,520 because he even there so we covered for 726 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:11,190 him and I put my J or Monahan would put 727 00:29:16,159 --> 00:29:13,530 his am on the time cards and that 728 00:29:18,110 --> 00:29:16,169 cleared them that he made so many hours 729 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:18,120 when he wasn't even around and leave 730 00:29:22,039 --> 00:29:19,890 tells me you know on the phone he says 731 00:29:23,900 --> 00:29:22,049 you know it's even easier here at the at 732 00:29:25,789 --> 00:29:23,910 the he called it the building he didn't 733 00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:25,799 call it Texas School Book Depository he 734 00:29:30,590 --> 00:29:28,320 called it another name day it was that 735 00:29:31,820 --> 00:29:30,600 he the name of the whole building and a 736 00:29:35,150 --> 00:29:31,830 different name than that 737 00:29:37,850 --> 00:29:35,160 and he told me at that time you know all 738 00:29:39,740 --> 00:29:37,860 I have to do here is she fills out that 739 00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:39,750 I've been working here all eight hours 740 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:42,510 and I come and go as I please sure 741 00:29:48,110 --> 00:29:45,330 enough we have a record I'm trying to 742 00:29:50,270 --> 00:29:48,120 find it the original National Archives 743 00:29:51,980 --> 00:29:50,280 I'm going to find it unless it's being 744 00:29:54,110 --> 00:29:51,990 held back right now they're holding back 745 00:29:56,660 --> 00:29:54,120 a lot of the FBI is holding back a lot 746 00:29:58,100 --> 00:29:56,670 of Records right now that they're going 747 00:30:00,170 --> 00:29:58,110 through and which ones they're going to 748 00:30:01,790 --> 00:30:00,180 release what's silly about this is that 749 00:30:03,530 --> 00:30:01,800 a lot of these records have already been 750 00:30:05,810 --> 00:30:03,540 released so they're going to be the huge 751 00:30:07,070 --> 00:30:05,820 batch of records that have already been 752 00:30:08,810 --> 00:30:07,080 released they're going to re-release 753 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:08,820 them some of them were pulled on a 754 00:30:13,910 --> 00:30:11,730 circulation well you'll find that there 755 00:30:17,030 --> 00:30:13,920 was a record of Lee's last day of work 756 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:17,040 that was November 22nd when Kennedy was 757 00:30:22,190 --> 00:30:19,530 shot and as you know Lee Oswald was 758 00:30:25,790 --> 00:30:22,200 arrested within two hours of Kennedy's 759 00:30:28,340 --> 00:30:25,800 being shot but the work records shows 760 00:30:29,690 --> 00:30:28,350 that he'd worked a full day at the Texas 761 00:30:33,710 --> 00:30:29,700 schoolbook depository 762 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:33,720 hmm yeah all eight hours Hey huh yeah a 763 00:30:38,090 --> 00:30:35,610 lot of clarity to this and it's just 764 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:38,100 such a huge story with a lot of details 765 00:30:41,780 --> 00:30:39,330 I wanted to ask you a few questions 766 00:30:44,210 --> 00:30:41,790 about the wider implications of this 767 00:30:46,070 --> 00:30:44,220 story and how it might affect even 768 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:46,080 listeners and their families because you 769 00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:47,850 said that you know you guys trust it all 770 00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:52,320 nos noir which is not something not wise 771 00:30:57,490 --> 00:30:54,320 because these are going to be a Genesis 772 00:31:01,340 --> 00:30:57,500 we know that cancer weaponization 773 00:31:04,010 --> 00:31:01,350 occurred and unfortunately that's 50 774 00:31:06,650 --> 00:31:04,020 over 50 I mean it was 50 years ago right 775 00:31:08,870 --> 00:31:06,660 so imagine what they've done now and how 776 00:31:11,090 --> 00:31:08,880 sophisticated well they said they said 777 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:11,100 that they had gotten this simian virus 778 00:31:15,950 --> 00:31:13,650 out of the polio vaccine but yet you 779 00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:15,960 said you've seen cases up until 1999 780 00:31:21,260 --> 00:31:18,000 that they still had it in there right 781 00:31:23,150 --> 00:31:21,270 yes here's the thing probably most of us 782 00:31:25,580 --> 00:31:23,160 are carrying it the trouble is most of 783 00:31:27,470 --> 00:31:25,590 us don't go for us who die of cancer 784 00:31:29,210 --> 00:31:27,480 they're not going and asking for an 785 00:31:30,380 --> 00:31:29,220 additional test to see if they have the 786 00:31:33,170 --> 00:31:30,390 simian virus 787 00:31:36,770 --> 00:31:33,180 you know the monkey virus sv40 in their 788 00:31:39,770 --> 00:31:36,780 system so when they do they fight they 789 00:31:42,290 --> 00:31:39,780 were finding of 60% 60% of them were 790 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:42,300 carrying it hmm and this is so many 791 00:31:44,780 --> 00:31:43,770 years afterwards other words it's 792 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:44,790 carried now for 793 00:31:50,390 --> 00:31:47,970 daughter you know two children of us 794 00:31:52,700 --> 00:31:50,400 husbands would get it from their wives 795 00:31:55,070 --> 00:31:52,710 maybe it could be any fluids would 796 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:55,080 transmit it but mainly you're looking at 797 00:31:58,880 --> 00:31:56,730 it coming from the mother to the 798 00:32:01,789 --> 00:31:58,890 children it's passed along just like it 799 00:32:04,159 --> 00:32:01,799 is in monkeys for heaven's sakes a lot 800 00:32:05,900 --> 00:32:04,169 of people say oh no this don't connect 801 00:32:08,810 --> 00:32:05,910 this to AIDS either now I did not 802 00:32:11,270 --> 00:32:08,820 develop AIDS and I am NOT pleased that 803 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:11,280 the History Channel has accused me of 804 00:32:17,930 --> 00:32:14,610 saying that I I worked in the laboratory 805 00:32:21,740 --> 00:32:17,940 that developed AIDS I worked with people 806 00:32:25,490 --> 00:32:21,750 who later apparently did work with more 807 00:32:27,919 --> 00:32:25,500 viruses and there is a good lot of 808 00:32:31,010 --> 00:32:27,929 evidence that despite what the 809 00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:31,020 government says that we definitely were 810 00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:33,120 working with precursors of the AIDS 811 00:32:41,419 --> 00:32:37,200 virus and all associated problems you 812 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:41,429 have with that the polio vaccine is very 813 00:32:48,289 --> 00:32:45,570 very simple virus it's loaded with and 814 00:32:50,030 --> 00:32:48,299 they were grown on the kidneys macerated 815 00:32:52,669 --> 00:32:50,040 kidneys and monkeys mm-hmm and these 816 00:32:55,940 --> 00:32:52,679 were filled with all kinds of viruses 817 00:33:00,070 --> 00:32:55,950 never cleaned up now when they said they 818 00:33:02,990 --> 00:33:00,080 that 98 million people got this in 19 in 819 00:33:05,330 --> 00:33:03,000 1963 but they failed to tell you is that 820 00:33:07,940 --> 00:33:05,340 those were what were on the Shelf they 821 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:07,950 kept producing this right they said well 822 00:33:11,419 --> 00:33:09,690 after all you know we'll get a cure for 823 00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:11,429 cancer before this is going to show up 824 00:33:15,260 --> 00:33:12,809 because in humans 825 00:33:17,539 --> 00:33:15,270 since there was a monkey virus it wasn't 826 00:33:19,250 --> 00:33:17,549 just active it takes time and of course 827 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:19,260 they've done everything they can to try 828 00:33:24,740 --> 00:33:21,690 to prove that the monkey virus doesn't 829 00:33:27,620 --> 00:33:24,750 cause cancer how come it shows up in so 830 00:33:29,659 --> 00:33:27,630 many people who have cancer well that's 831 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:29,669 that's the bottom line if you could look 832 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:31,290 at it under a microscope you can see 833 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:35,010 that the polio virus is very interesting 834 00:33:40,820 --> 00:33:37,530 because it's like a donkey it can 835 00:33:42,980 --> 00:33:40,830 actually piggyback other viruses on top 836 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:42,990 of it and carry them anywhere it wants 837 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:45,570 to know it's just like that see that's 838 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:47,370 what makes me curious because you were 839 00:33:51,500 --> 00:33:49,650 told that you were working on a cancer 840 00:33:53,180 --> 00:33:51,510 weapon to kill Castro but these other 841 00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:53,190 implications make me wonder if you think 842 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:54,809 there were other goals and objectives of 843 00:33:58,999 --> 00:33:57,690 the secret ring of labs other than 844 00:34:00,740 --> 00:33:59,009 I mean and of course they were all 845 00:34:03,259 --> 00:34:00,750 separated for me so that I saw sign off 846 00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:03,269 initials the reason David fairies was 847 00:34:08,300 --> 00:34:06,000 off the grid like that now it's 848 00:34:10,609 --> 00:34:08,310 interesting that Ochsner they have been 849 00:34:13,940 --> 00:34:10,619 working on this since March of 60 to 850 00:34:17,210 --> 00:34:13,950 March 23rd 1962 is what when they 851 00:34:20,569 --> 00:34:17,220 decided to put all this together but it 852 00:34:22,879 --> 00:34:20,579 was only days earlier before Lee and I 853 00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:22,889 both reached New Orleans down you know 854 00:34:27,530 --> 00:34:24,960 Lee and I reached New Orleans we were 855 00:34:31,129 --> 00:34:27,540 both sent to New Orleans the same week 856 00:34:33,710 --> 00:34:31,139 we actually registered for our cover 857 00:34:35,419 --> 00:34:33,720 jobs at the same employment agency and 858 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:35,429 there were five or six of them in New 859 00:34:41,540 --> 00:34:38,490 Orleans at a one together we were 860 00:34:44,809 --> 00:34:41,550 interviewed the same day at 6:40 861 00:34:46,990 --> 00:34:44,819 Magazine Street and we were hired that 862 00:34:50,569 --> 00:34:47,000 was May 9th on May 10th we were hired 863 00:34:53,059 --> 00:34:50,579 they we worked and luck the because 864 00:34:55,730 --> 00:34:53,069 Riley had their work week started on 865 00:34:58,250 --> 00:34:55,740 Friday not on set on Thursday I mean on 866 00:35:00,500 --> 00:34:58,260 Thursday usually it goes one you know 867 00:35:02,900 --> 00:35:00,510 Monday through Friday is a work week hmm 868 00:35:05,180 --> 00:35:02,910 for Riley it was from Friday all the way 869 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:05,190 to Thursday so a lot of people thought 870 00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:06,810 that Lee Oswald didn't even start work 871 00:35:11,569 --> 00:35:08,880 till May 17th no he started on May 10th 872 00:35:14,420 --> 00:35:11,579 he got his first check on May 17th it's 873 00:35:17,059 --> 00:35:14,430 a full week's check and of course I did 874 00:35:18,770 --> 00:35:17,069 - we were there though not at Riley's 875 00:35:20,780 --> 00:35:18,780 but for one whole week we were at 876 00:35:23,660 --> 00:35:20,790 standard coffee company where our 877 00:35:25,819 --> 00:35:23,670 records were laundered so we have two 878 00:35:29,510 --> 00:35:25,829 records in the Warren Commission report 879 00:35:30,589 --> 00:35:29,520 and the 26 volumes where mr. Monahan 880 00:35:33,230 --> 00:35:30,599 says yes we did it 881 00:35:35,359 --> 00:35:33,240 Porter - background check on Lee Oswald 882 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:35,369 and was ordered by standard coffee and 883 00:35:41,210 --> 00:35:37,890 it was an order by standard which was a 884 00:35:43,579 --> 00:35:41,220 subsidiary of Riley so what happened is 885 00:35:46,190 --> 00:35:43,589 of course we had made a fake we got the 886 00:35:48,530 --> 00:35:46,200 templates all right then stationery but 887 00:35:50,569 --> 00:35:48,540 and I explained how we did that in the 888 00:35:52,130 --> 00:35:50,579 book me and Lee and then we filled him 889 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:52,140 out we had so much fun filling out that 890 00:35:57,260 --> 00:35:53,970 Lee was a wonderful you know model 891 00:35:58,130 --> 00:35:57,270 citizen never been in USSR yeah just got 892 00:36:00,770 --> 00:35:58,140 out of the Marines 893 00:36:03,349 --> 00:36:00,780 uh-huh and never had been fired from a 894 00:36:05,630 --> 00:36:03,359 job and so on and had like 20 equivalent 895 00:36:07,940 --> 00:36:05,640 of 25,000 dollars in his bank account 896 00:36:09,410 --> 00:36:07,950 we made him to her into what Lee called 897 00:36:12,319 --> 00:36:09,420 a rich capitalist it 898 00:36:15,890 --> 00:36:12,329 you know had a lot of fun doing it well 899 00:36:18,020 --> 00:36:15,900 we did that and I learned to type better 900 00:36:19,579 --> 00:36:18,030 because I was dreadful typist I was slow 901 00:36:22,490 --> 00:36:19,589 I was a pretty accurate 902 00:36:25,970 --> 00:36:22,500 are so slow so anyway after one week 903 00:36:28,990 --> 00:36:25,980 together on the same day on May 17th we 904 00:36:33,410 --> 00:36:29,000 both move over to Riley's and of course 905 00:36:36,620 --> 00:36:33,420 since he moved he his name Oswald there 906 00:36:38,839 --> 00:36:36,630 - Baker my actually got a check that was 907 00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:38,849 issued by standards so I can prove that 908 00:36:44,210 --> 00:36:41,609 I worked his standard that week but by 909 00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:44,220 the time he we processed over there they 910 00:36:50,030 --> 00:36:47,040 had not yet hit the O's you know so 911 00:36:52,250 --> 00:36:50,040 Lee's first check was issued by Riley's 912 00:36:53,930 --> 00:36:52,260 cuz we transferred over around 9:30 in 913 00:36:55,730 --> 00:36:53,940 the morning well they already cut my 914 00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:55,740 check I was a B but they hadn't got 915 00:37:01,579 --> 00:36:59,040 leaves by then so he has my check is 916 00:37:04,190 --> 00:37:01,589 from standard this is from Riley why is 917 00:37:05,809 --> 00:37:04,200 this important nobody realized that Lee 918 00:37:08,059 --> 00:37:05,819 Oswald worked his stander because he had 919 00:37:09,770 --> 00:37:08,069 no check that said it and of course when 920 00:37:11,329 --> 00:37:09,780 I said that he did work at Standard 921 00:37:13,460 --> 00:37:11,339 nobody believed me until I showed the 922 00:37:15,890 --> 00:37:13,470 records to them so I have many internal 923 00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:15,900 ways of proving that Lee and I were 924 00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:18,480 associated with each other and I saved 925 00:37:22,309 --> 00:37:21,089 all these records myself of course right 926 00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:22,319 and I understand you've been vetted 927 00:37:26,900 --> 00:37:24,569 pretty heavily from Jim Marrs and Ed has 928 00:37:28,670 --> 00:37:26,910 them of course and I did hear you say in 929 00:37:30,049 --> 00:37:28,680 a previous interview to get back to the 930 00:37:32,510 --> 00:37:30,059 cancer thing a little bit that we could 931 00:37:35,059 --> 00:37:32,520 have cured cancer by the 1970s by using 932 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:35,069 a bacterial fans can you educate us on 933 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:37,010 that a little bit yeah bacteriophage 934 00:37:41,809 --> 00:37:39,450 that's the greek Fache is to eat 935 00:37:43,789 --> 00:37:41,819 bacterias in other words this is a virus 936 00:37:45,890 --> 00:37:43,799 at East bacteria they're really cute 937 00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:45,900 under the electron microscope it looks 938 00:37:49,190 --> 00:37:47,520 like a little mosquitoes they have 939 00:37:51,260 --> 00:37:49,200 sippers you know the dippers they're 940 00:37:53,539 --> 00:37:51,270 able to look just like what a mosquito 941 00:37:56,059 --> 00:37:53,549 might have and then there's they sit on 942 00:37:58,789 --> 00:37:56,069 legs like four legs and they in between 943 00:38:02,900 --> 00:37:58,799 down goes this dipper down into the cell 944 00:38:05,450 --> 00:38:02,910 and it'll inject its own RNA in there 945 00:38:07,339 --> 00:38:05,460 and that's the beginning of the end for 946 00:38:09,049 --> 00:38:07,349 that cell of course you have to have a 947 00:38:11,180 --> 00:38:09,059 lot of them that they multiply like 948 00:38:13,849 --> 00:38:11,190 crazy that what's interesting about 949 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:13,859 bacteriophages they're easily easily 950 00:38:20,140 --> 00:38:17,490 manipulated and modified to the extent 951 00:38:23,210 --> 00:38:20,150 that you really can't patent a 952 00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:23,220 bacteriophage because the 953 00:38:26,810 --> 00:38:24,720 someone else could make a slight 954 00:38:29,349 --> 00:38:26,820 improvement they would patent it to you 955 00:38:32,180 --> 00:38:29,359 see and it's very easy to do and cheap 956 00:38:33,859 --> 00:38:32,190 bacteriophage in fact is the cheapest 957 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:33,869 way probably there is to cure cancer 958 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:37,530 besides the forbidden drugs which I'm 959 00:38:41,930 --> 00:38:39,090 not going to talk about right now but 960 00:38:44,450 --> 00:38:41,940 please think about Oregon all right hmm 961 00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:44,460 all right seriously if I had cancer I 962 00:38:49,460 --> 00:38:47,460 would move to Oregon all right yeah or I 963 00:38:52,250 --> 00:38:49,470 go to Australia where they allow it all 964 00:38:54,859 --> 00:38:52,260 right so or I go to the Netherlands but 965 00:38:59,000 --> 00:38:54,869 we're talking about bacteriophage being 966 00:39:01,280 --> 00:38:59,010 too cheap to modify therefore big pharma 967 00:39:04,730 --> 00:39:01,290 is not going to do it because they can't 968 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:04,740 make enough money now we have online you 969 00:39:08,780 --> 00:39:06,210 can see a study where they're using 970 00:39:10,460 --> 00:39:08,790 bacteria files which can be and they've 971 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:10,470 already modified it so we'll go to a 972 00:39:14,540 --> 00:39:12,210 cancer cell now you'd think they'd have 973 00:39:16,010 --> 00:39:14,550 attacked the cancer cell you know 974 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:16,020 because they that's what they should do 975 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:19,170 right and by doing so that cancer cell 976 00:39:24,740 --> 00:39:21,930 bursts and all kinds of baby bacterial 977 00:39:27,589 --> 00:39:24,750 files would be merged or spray out and I 978 00:39:29,210 --> 00:39:27,599 continue with a lovely thing is that 979 00:39:30,890 --> 00:39:29,220 when they can't find anymore cancer 980 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:30,900 cells they go latent that is they'll 981 00:39:36,410 --> 00:39:33,570 keep multiplying on nothing mm-hmm well 982 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:36,420 you would want to ask yourself why in 983 00:39:41,839 --> 00:39:39,690 the world aren't we using this well they 984 00:39:45,079 --> 00:39:41,849 found a way to make money on the cheap 985 00:39:46,910 --> 00:39:45,089 bacteriophage but they've taught these 986 00:39:49,250 --> 00:39:46,920 that call it teaching but you understand 987 00:39:51,829 --> 00:39:49,260 what I'm saying and dr. Newton that's 988 00:39:53,810 --> 00:39:51,839 right they can be selected to want to 989 00:39:56,930 --> 00:39:53,820 eat a certain particular type of cell 990 00:40:00,320 --> 00:39:56,940 and of course you can that you can 991 00:40:03,460 --> 00:40:00,330 modify them genetically very quickly so 992 00:40:07,070 --> 00:40:03,470 there you have this bacteriophage and 993 00:40:08,540 --> 00:40:07,080 it's modified they haven't modified so 994 00:40:10,099 --> 00:40:08,550 it'll go to cancer cells and what are 995 00:40:14,210 --> 00:40:10,109 they have they done they've piggybacked 996 00:40:17,390 --> 00:40:14,220 it with chemotherapy units on the nano 997 00:40:18,490 --> 00:40:17,400 scale that is expensive and that is what 998 00:40:21,500 --> 00:40:18,500 they are doing 999 00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:21,510 mmm-hmm we don't need that but you know 1000 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:24,480 it's just another sad litany we have 1001 00:40:28,820 --> 00:40:26,130 these cancer I call them cancer 1002 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:28,830 treatment Tallis's their cancer palaces 1003 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:31,290 you look at the money they forward into 1004 00:40:35,060 --> 00:40:33,330 these huge buildings and you ask 1005 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:35,070 yourself when you could have a small 1006 00:40:39,090 --> 00:40:37,090 clinic we have dozens of 1007 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:39,100 different ways that that cancer could be 1008 00:40:43,770 --> 00:40:41,770 cured depending on the cancer now some 1009 00:40:45,540 --> 00:40:43,780 of them are incurable but there are 1010 00:40:48,330 --> 00:40:45,550 other ways to get even get around that 1011 00:40:49,950 --> 00:40:48,340 it's just pitiful that we are still in 1012 00:40:51,420 --> 00:40:49,960 the medieval stage where we're cutting 1013 00:40:54,810 --> 00:40:51,430 them burning them and poisoning them 1014 00:40:57,240 --> 00:40:54,820 mm-hmm that's people they it is it was 1015 00:40:59,250 --> 00:40:57,250 very sad a lot of people write to me one 1016 00:41:01,740 --> 00:40:59,260 person recently wrote his mother has 1017 00:41:04,170 --> 00:41:01,750 died of it his father has died of it his 1018 00:41:06,570 --> 00:41:04,180 brother has died of it his sister has it 1019 00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:06,580 and he's got it and they don't they 1020 00:41:11,940 --> 00:41:08,110 can't see that this is genetically 1021 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:11,950 linked the people you do not want you 1022 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:13,450 the government no there's they don't 1023 00:41:17,070 --> 00:41:14,650 want you to know that some of these 1024 00:41:19,230 --> 00:41:17,080 cancers are actually contagious right 1025 00:41:20,820 --> 00:41:19,240 and well I've learned a lot about cancer 1026 00:41:22,260 --> 00:41:20,830 in the industry from listening to your 1027 00:41:24,270 --> 00:41:22,270 previous interviews and your writing and 1028 00:41:26,010 --> 00:41:24,280 obviously we've established they want us 1029 00:41:27,930 --> 00:41:26,020 to stay sick and on the chemo payroll 1030 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:27,940 but an aspect of this that really opened 1031 00:41:31,740 --> 00:41:29,890 my eyes that you've talked about is 1032 00:41:34,110 --> 00:41:31,750 biopsies can you talk to us about how 1033 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:34,120 they make the problem worse yeah I 1034 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:37,570 prefer therma grams not mammograms but 1035 00:41:42,570 --> 00:41:39,970 our x-rays but you can use a thermogram 1036 00:41:45,420 --> 00:41:42,580 and and you can see hot spots now as 1037 00:41:48,750 --> 00:41:45,430 cancer develops hot spots because 1038 00:41:52,110 --> 00:41:48,760 they're multiplying so quickly and they 1039 00:41:54,330 --> 00:41:52,120 need a lot of blood supply they kind of 1040 00:41:56,490 --> 00:41:54,340 carry in as much blood as they can they 1041 00:41:58,920 --> 00:41:56,500 create an acid environment by the way 1042 00:42:01,770 --> 00:41:58,930 people think that they need to go on an 1043 00:42:04,350 --> 00:42:01,780 anti acid diet there's a cancer is gonna 1044 00:42:06,210 --> 00:42:04,360 make acid that's what they do okay they 1045 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:06,220 make their own acid no matter what type 1046 00:42:11,010 --> 00:42:08,290 of diet you're on what you want to have 1047 00:42:13,530 --> 00:42:11,020 is a good rounded diet with fresh fruits 1048 00:42:14,940 --> 00:42:13,540 and vegetables and and get your various 1049 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:14,950 we could talk about the various 1050 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:17,290 supplements that can help you but let's 1051 00:42:21,450 --> 00:42:19,330 look again what you were talking about 1052 00:42:24,390 --> 00:42:21,460 and would you repeat the question so I 1053 00:42:26,730 --> 00:42:24,400 do not want to what about biopsies makes 1054 00:42:28,380 --> 00:42:26,740 cancer worse because there are different 1055 00:42:31,470 --> 00:42:28,390 aspects that we could talk about for 1056 00:42:34,290 --> 00:42:31,480 example even lots of x-rays like 1057 00:42:36,690 --> 00:42:34,300 mammograms though can do so much harm to 1058 00:42:39,150 --> 00:42:36,700 the tissues and I'm just aged people 1059 00:42:42,060 --> 00:42:39,160 please choose the mammogram not the 1060 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:42,070 mammogram but the thermogram a friend of 1061 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:45,010 mine who did this they found a cancer in 1062 00:42:48,690 --> 00:42:46,810 her neck because the thermogram will 1063 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:48,700 scan parts of your body that besides 1064 00:42:52,260 --> 00:42:50,530 your breasts and 1065 00:42:55,650 --> 00:42:52,270 save your life never would have been 1066 00:42:59,130 --> 00:42:55,660 detected on her neck you know what's a 1067 00:43:01,830 --> 00:42:59,140 mammogram all right similarly they the 1068 00:43:04,350 --> 00:43:01,840 idea is you punch a hole when you have 1069 00:43:07,890 --> 00:43:04,360 to go and get it biopsy made you have to 1070 00:43:09,630 --> 00:43:07,900 take a needle and you insert it and when 1071 00:43:11,610 --> 00:43:09,640 you do this you're making an opening to 1072 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:11,620 the outside of the body of course you 1073 00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:14,410 know you're punching it opening in and 1074 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:16,240 even though it's microscopic it looks 1075 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:18,010 like to us it's when you look at it 1076 00:43:22,410 --> 00:43:20,050 under a microscope it's a big hole it's 1077 00:43:24,300 --> 00:43:22,420 been punched in and of course viruses 1078 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:24,310 and everything can enter so there's 1079 00:43:28,710 --> 00:43:25,930 always the risk of infection but here's 1080 00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:28,720 what happens it touches the cancer and 1081 00:43:32,850 --> 00:43:30,910 it penetrates into the cancer it's 1082 00:43:34,890 --> 00:43:32,860 pulled out again all right it sucks out 1083 00:43:36,810 --> 00:43:34,900 some of this or you cut some of it out 1084 00:43:38,070 --> 00:43:36,820 you clip it out and that's what they 1085 00:43:39,930 --> 00:43:38,080 usually do huh 1086 00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:39,940 all right when you clip it out remember 1087 00:43:45,390 --> 00:43:42,640 you have then a raw hole there and that 1088 00:43:47,490 --> 00:43:45,400 hole if you cells are very small most 1089 00:43:50,580 --> 00:43:47,500 most cells in the body are very small 1090 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:50,590 you withdraw this item that you have 1091 00:43:55,290 --> 00:43:52,570 inserted and with it you're going to 1092 00:43:58,530 --> 00:43:55,300 pull who knows how many cancer cells out 1093 00:44:02,490 --> 00:43:58,540 with it you see it I'm saying right but 1094 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:02,500 yet I with the tiny prostate gland I 1095 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:04,690 know someone who had ten biopsies done 1096 00:44:09,330 --> 00:44:06,490 on his prostate before they just finally 1097 00:44:13,650 --> 00:44:09,340 decided oh he's got cancer I told this 1098 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:13,660 man don't do the biopsy please just get 1099 00:44:18,540 --> 00:44:16,810 it out do your exercises your pelvic 1100 00:44:21,450 --> 00:44:18,550 exercises so you won't have to wear 1101 00:44:23,220 --> 00:44:21,460 diapers and be embarrassed and get 1102 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:23,230 yourself a doctor who knows what he's 1103 00:44:29,700 --> 00:44:26,410 doing and get it out because you'll live 1104 00:44:33,090 --> 00:44:29,710 now my former husband Robert Baker was 1105 00:44:35,490 --> 00:44:33,100 diagnosed with prostatitis and I said to 1106 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:35,500 him at that time we weren't very 1107 00:44:42,420 --> 00:44:38,530 friendly terms his wife really doesn't 1108 00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:42,430 like me but yeah yeah that's the way it 1109 00:44:47,820 --> 00:44:45,520 is sometimes he still writes on Facebook 1110 00:44:51,540 --> 00:44:47,830 and thinks that our anyway let's don't 1111 00:44:54,420 --> 00:44:51,550 go down boy the point is is that he did 1112 00:44:56,250 --> 00:44:54,430 not listen to me he said I don't want to 1113 00:44:58,770 --> 00:44:56,260 lose my sexual function when I said 1114 00:45:00,990 --> 00:44:58,780 you'd get it out instead he kept it you 1115 00:45:03,540 --> 00:45:01,000 got there useful seeds the radiation is 1116 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:03,550 supposed to knock it out and so on 1117 00:45:09,289 --> 00:45:04,170 finally 1118 00:45:11,359 --> 00:45:09,299 giving him female hormones trying to 1119 00:45:14,539 --> 00:45:11,369 stop the discourage going through his 1120 00:45:17,109 --> 00:45:14,549 body he dies in agony after all their 1121 00:45:20,059 --> 00:45:17,119 chemo after all their radiation after 1122 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:20,069 everything of bone cancer and that is 1123 00:45:25,339 --> 00:45:22,890 such a painful way to go right that's so 1124 00:45:27,289 --> 00:45:25,349 sad they're poking tumors trying to 1125 00:45:28,609 --> 00:45:27,299 release cancer so they can treat it and 1126 00:45:32,089 --> 00:45:28,619 you're paying them for that privilege 1127 00:45:33,530 --> 00:45:32,099 but they really they they want the 1128 00:45:35,539 --> 00:45:33,540 biopsy so you can see it under the 1129 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:35,549 microscope for several reasons like oh 1130 00:45:38,630 --> 00:45:37,410 we better not take something out and 1131 00:45:40,670 --> 00:45:38,640 then find out it's not cancers they 1132 00:45:42,829 --> 00:45:40,680 could sue us you know they've got all 1133 00:45:44,870 --> 00:45:42,839 these excuses you know yeah I mean they 1134 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:44,880 can claim ignorance to a degree but when 1135 00:45:48,980 --> 00:45:47,130 you find out that the simian virus was 1136 00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:48,990 in the polio vaccine for decades longer 1137 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:50,880 than they said I mean I wonder like 1138 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:52,290 what's an accident and what's a 1139 00:45:56,750 --> 00:45:54,210 carefully controlled campaign against 1140 00:45:59,210 --> 00:45:56,760 the people of the country oh it's yeah 1141 00:46:02,059 --> 00:45:59,220 if there are so many if you go and look 1142 00:46:04,849 --> 00:46:02,069 at the recalls on various most of them 1143 00:46:07,490 --> 00:46:04,859 are for recalls on like bags that are 1144 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:07,500 that are that have dirtied up or they're 1145 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:08,970 contaminated and they're putting blood 1146 00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:10,530 into the bags or something like that but 1147 00:46:15,559 --> 00:46:12,720 every once in a while you run into one 1148 00:46:17,450 --> 00:46:15,569 of the vaccines that is so dirty that 1149 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:17,460 they have to recall it you know they 1150 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:18,930 don't like you know about that but you 1151 00:46:23,809 --> 00:46:21,210 can find it online right yeah I mean 1152 00:46:26,180 --> 00:46:23,819 you're risk taking so much just fooling 1153 00:46:27,770 --> 00:46:26,190 around with these vaccines you're 1154 00:46:29,660 --> 00:46:27,780 supposed to be some kind of nut if you 1155 00:46:31,730 --> 00:46:29,670 believe that you should take every 1156 00:46:33,589 --> 00:46:31,740 vaccination and the doctor asks you to 1157 00:46:35,809 --> 00:46:33,599 take I want to tell you that 1158 00:46:38,329 --> 00:46:35,819 veterinarian you may have heard this and 1159 00:46:40,670 --> 00:46:38,339 from the talk I've had given before but 1160 00:46:42,890 --> 00:46:40,680 a veterinarian with a classic dog you 1161 00:46:44,630 --> 00:46:42,900 know pedigree dog they're puppies mm-hm 1162 00:46:46,190 --> 00:46:44,640 it gives them a test to see how the 1163 00:46:47,569 --> 00:46:46,200 mothers antibodies are doing because 1164 00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:47,579 they do not want to give a vaccination 1165 00:46:52,549 --> 00:46:49,680 too soon because it can cause all kinds 1166 00:46:55,250 --> 00:46:52,559 of damages but we don't give our our own 1167 00:46:57,230 --> 00:46:55,260 human children these tests so you have a 1168 00:46:59,450 --> 00:46:57,240 child that's that's drinking from its 1169 00:47:01,880 --> 00:46:59,460 mother's breast milk okay and getting 1170 00:47:03,559 --> 00:47:01,890 all kinds of all the kind of antibodies 1171 00:47:07,039 --> 00:47:03,569 they need but they go to go and throw 1172 00:47:09,079 --> 00:47:07,049 vaccinations on a child at birth 1173 00:47:11,030 --> 00:47:09,089 it's called insulting the system when 1174 00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:11,040 you give them an overburden of something 1175 00:47:15,500 --> 00:47:13,440 that's called an insult we insult the 1176 00:47:17,630 --> 00:47:15,510 baby's immune system which is just 1177 00:47:20,630 --> 00:47:17,640 barely getting started with 1178 00:47:21,859 --> 00:47:20,640 barrage of of challenges ah and here 1179 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:21,869 they're drinking their mother's milk the 1180 00:47:28,099 --> 00:47:24,450 mother is supplying the antibodies that 1181 00:47:30,109 --> 00:47:28,109 will help kill this stuff off when they 1182 00:47:31,759 --> 00:47:30,119 don't need a vaccination on many counts 1183 00:47:33,230 --> 00:47:31,769 if the mothers antibodies have been 1184 00:47:36,079 --> 00:47:33,240 checked for what they what they're 1185 00:47:38,750 --> 00:47:36,089 strong in now we have over in Sweden and 1186 00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:38,760 scan all Scandinavia Iceland Finland 1187 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:41,730 Denmark and like even Germany oh there 1188 00:47:48,410 --> 00:47:45,930 they do not require even on maybe 11 to 1189 00:47:52,250 --> 00:47:48,420 13 vaccinations and whereas in the 1190 00:47:53,779 --> 00:47:52,260 United States we begin at 45 46 why not 1191 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:53,789 sell people another one if there's no 1192 00:47:59,120 --> 00:47:56,970 resistance whatsoever well what you try 1193 00:48:01,789 --> 00:47:59,130 to tell people what you have here in 1194 00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:01,799 your bloodstream think about traffic and 1195 00:48:05,809 --> 00:48:03,839 how you can have traffic jams and 1196 00:48:08,210 --> 00:48:05,819 clogging going on in intersections 1197 00:48:10,609 --> 00:48:08,220 because literally in some of these 1198 00:48:12,500 --> 00:48:10,619 overburdened systems there are so many 1199 00:48:13,549 --> 00:48:12,510 antibodies and old antibodies not 1200 00:48:15,710 --> 00:48:13,559 working where especially if they're 1201 00:48:18,099 --> 00:48:15,720 getting flu shots every year most of 1202 00:48:21,140 --> 00:48:18,109 shots are already obsolete before 1203 00:48:24,109 --> 00:48:21,150 because they those mutate so quickly 1204 00:48:27,710 --> 00:48:24,119 those viruses do so here you actually 1205 00:48:30,410 --> 00:48:27,720 are having people coming in with livers 1206 00:48:32,839 --> 00:48:30,420 that are so clogged with antibodies that 1207 00:48:34,910 --> 00:48:32,849 they're not functioning properly right 1208 00:48:36,589 --> 00:48:34,920 well I mean we could have any relation 1209 00:48:38,420 --> 00:48:36,599 to clogged arteries in the heart heart 1210 00:48:40,039 --> 00:48:38,430 disease being our number one killer 1211 00:48:41,930 --> 00:48:40,049 guess what heart disease is not the 1212 00:48:44,990 --> 00:48:41,940 number one killer oh that's not true 1213 00:48:47,150 --> 00:48:45,000 I'll tell you why it looks that way they 1214 00:48:48,289 --> 00:48:47,160 do not they count heart attacks but they 1215 00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:48,299 don't tell you where the heart attacks 1216 00:48:52,910 --> 00:48:50,880 are all coming from a significant 1217 00:48:56,509 --> 00:48:52,920 percentage I say significant when you 1218 00:48:58,910 --> 00:48:56,519 when otherwise it's 50/50 whether heart 1219 00:49:00,769 --> 00:48:58,920 disease and cardiovascular problems you 1220 00:49:04,700 --> 00:49:00,779 know are killing people more than 1221 00:49:07,220 --> 00:49:04,710 cancers because a lot of people die from 1222 00:49:09,170 --> 00:49:07,230 heart attacks from chemotherapy and 1223 00:49:11,870 --> 00:49:09,180 cancer and they count that as heart 1224 00:49:15,289 --> 00:49:11,880 attacks what's very related yeah so when 1225 00:49:18,799 --> 00:49:15,299 you add those in it's a 50-50 throw up 1226 00:49:20,420 --> 00:49:18,809 and cancer comes slightly ahead well 1227 00:49:23,059 --> 00:49:20,430 they love to fudge data we know that 1228 00:49:24,499 --> 00:49:23,069 well there's another way and people need 1229 00:49:26,779 --> 00:49:24,509 to understand you've heard about 1230 00:49:30,319 --> 00:49:26,789 five-year survival rate right mm-hmm 1231 00:49:31,500 --> 00:49:30,329 right sounds good right uh-huh well what 1232 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:31,510 about five years and one 1233 00:49:36,330 --> 00:49:33,970 and the guy dies of cancer they include 1234 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:36,340 him because he's still alive on but the 1235 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:38,770 next day he dies but he's included in 1236 00:49:46,650 --> 00:49:43,450 that statistic worse it used to be when 1237 00:49:49,230 --> 00:49:46,660 I was in school as a kid it was five 1238 00:49:52,170 --> 00:49:49,240 years cancer-free they don't say that 1239 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:52,180 anymore so though they by Saint by 1240 00:49:58,050 --> 00:49:54,970 mixing this five years cancer-free with 1241 00:50:01,460 --> 00:49:58,060 five year survival it makes it look like 1242 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:01,470 hey you know some of these cancers are 1243 00:50:06,410 --> 00:50:04,330 level or they're actually some of the 1244 00:50:09,630 --> 00:50:06,420 breast cancers and especially childhood 1245 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:09,640 leukemias and the reason those work so 1246 00:50:14,670 --> 00:50:12,010 well first early detection helps a 1247 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:14,680 little but what really we're looking at 1248 00:50:18,540 --> 00:50:17,530 is anytime you have anything that where 1249 00:50:21,660 --> 00:50:18,550 you can treat it through the bloodstream 1250 00:50:23,730 --> 00:50:21,670 directly in leukemia will immediately 1251 00:50:25,650 --> 00:50:23,740 some of those keep some of those chemo 1252 00:50:27,570 --> 00:50:25,660 therapeutic actions will work because 1253 00:50:30,390 --> 00:50:27,580 you're working with the blood right 1254 00:50:33,150 --> 00:50:30,400 directly not in tissues and bone and so 1255 00:50:35,670 --> 00:50:33,160 on mm-hmm now I had a friend his name 1256 00:50:37,470 --> 00:50:35,680 was Ted sherry and his we called him 1257 00:50:39,690 --> 00:50:37,480 tree frog and he gave us all kinds of 1258 00:50:42,450 --> 00:50:39,700 wonderful information about the Kennedy 1259 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:42,460 assassination he was very good to me and 1260 00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:44,530 often told me who my enemies were 1261 00:50:50,580 --> 00:50:47,110 because he was friends with them but 1262 00:50:53,490 --> 00:50:50,590 Edie had bladder cancer those doctors 1263 00:50:55,620 --> 00:50:53,500 never told him that he should never lie 1264 00:50:59,010 --> 00:50:55,630 down and put his leg his legs up above 1265 00:51:00,690 --> 00:50:59,020 you know his midriff never do it because 1266 00:51:02,940 --> 00:51:00,700 if you have bladder cancer you can go 1267 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:02,950 and the cancer cells can actually leak 1268 00:51:08,670 --> 00:51:06,130 up into the kidneys hmm so you keep your 1269 00:51:11,310 --> 00:51:08,680 legs down that way and of course you 1270 00:51:13,620 --> 00:51:11,320 should drink lots of fluid and evacuate 1271 00:51:16,500 --> 00:51:13,630 your bladder as often as you possibly 1272 00:51:18,270 --> 00:51:16,510 can and if I were a doctor treating 1273 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:18,280 someone like that I would throw vitamin 1274 00:51:21,630 --> 00:51:19,930 C and everything else right up into the 1275 00:51:24,690 --> 00:51:21,640 bladder I worked on it from the inside 1276 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:24,700 out poor thing here what happened is 1277 00:51:28,980 --> 00:51:26,890 they said he was going to die like three 1278 00:51:31,380 --> 00:51:28,990 months and I asked him what he was doing 1279 00:51:35,190 --> 00:51:31,390 and anyway we he went on his very 1280 00:51:38,550 --> 00:51:35,200 special diet and it included all your 1281 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:38,560 bright colored berries and so on but 1282 00:51:42,900 --> 00:51:40,330 mostly the brightly colored vegetables 1283 00:51:45,050 --> 00:51:42,910 anything orange or purple or dark green 1284 00:51:47,330 --> 00:51:45,060 all these are good for you he 1285 00:51:50,030 --> 00:51:47,340 cut back on pork interestingly enough 1286 00:51:51,710 --> 00:51:50,040 Denmark has the highest cancer death 1287 00:51:54,620 --> 00:51:51,720 rate in the world and they eat more pork 1288 00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:54,630 than anybody else and candy and when you 1289 00:51:59,630 --> 00:51:58,050 contrast that with with the over in 1290 00:52:01,010 --> 00:51:59,640 Muslim countries where they're not 1291 00:52:03,500 --> 00:52:01,020 allowed to eat pork but they're eating 1292 00:52:06,290 --> 00:52:03,510 camel and all kinds of different foods 1293 00:52:08,570 --> 00:52:06,300 over there that I say well they drink 1294 00:52:12,620 --> 00:52:08,580 camel milk they're eating camel meat and 1295 00:52:14,900 --> 00:52:12,630 so on lots of lamb red meats they're not 1296 00:52:17,390 --> 00:52:14,910 getting cancer and that was also true of 1297 00:52:19,700 --> 00:52:17,400 your many primitive tribes that we're 1298 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:19,710 eating just nothing but meat so it's not 1299 00:52:25,010 --> 00:52:22,050 exactly the meat itself it is the sugar 1300 00:52:26,870 --> 00:52:25,020 and the conversions to sugar potatoes 1301 00:52:28,940 --> 00:52:26,880 for example but convert right in your 1302 00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:28,950 mouth start converting your own saliva 1303 00:52:33,230 --> 00:52:31,440 starts to converting it into sugar you 1304 00:52:35,780 --> 00:52:33,240 can also look at the patterns about the 1305 00:52:37,610 --> 00:52:35,790 diets of the Apaches and how it changed 1306 00:52:39,590 --> 00:52:37,620 over time as an indicator as some yeah 1307 00:52:41,300 --> 00:52:39,600 absolutely of course you know I worked 1308 00:52:42,770 --> 00:52:41,310 with Apaches I taught on the Indian 1309 00:52:45,290 --> 00:52:42,780 Reservation out there under White 1310 00:52:47,540 --> 00:52:45,300 Mountain and all with those poor people 1311 00:52:50,780 --> 00:52:47,550 of Ganzer I love them they are wonderful 1312 00:52:51,500 --> 00:52:50,790 people but a lot of their way 300 or 400 1313 00:52:53,630 --> 00:52:51,510 pounds 1314 00:52:57,590 --> 00:52:53,640 there have been four stood it to stay in 1315 00:53:00,860 --> 00:52:57,600 one place and to focus on a diet that's 1316 00:53:02,930 --> 00:53:00,870 very heavy and corn tortillas and so on 1317 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:02,940 to me unfortunately for them they're 1318 00:53:07,490 --> 00:53:04,370 getting died they have a diabetes 1319 00:53:10,730 --> 00:53:07,500 epidemic because of it now I what I 1320 00:53:12,770 --> 00:53:10,740 think is fascinating is that yeah we had 1321 00:53:15,020 --> 00:53:12,780 no cancer you saw no cancer among these 1322 00:53:16,460 --> 00:53:15,030 Apaches when they were following the 1323 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:16,470 Buffalo it was they were eating mainly 1324 00:53:20,780 --> 00:53:18,690 buffalo meat and any dried berries and 1325 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:20,790 once awhile they would read you know the 1326 00:53:25,970 --> 00:53:23,610 Navajo which also really Apache but they 1327 00:53:28,370 --> 00:53:25,980 settled down they would raid them and 1328 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:28,380 get some of their food and take some of 1329 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:30,050 their kids you know things like that 1330 00:53:35,180 --> 00:53:32,850 well they were healthy and strong but 1331 00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:35,190 now that they're on reservations they're 1332 00:53:41,750 --> 00:53:38,250 fat and frankly they're ill they're sick 1333 00:53:44,630 --> 00:53:41,760 that's it's it's sad to see so it's not 1334 00:53:46,820 --> 00:53:44,640 necessarily a diet that avoids meat 1335 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:46,830 completely although with our modern 1336 00:53:51,430 --> 00:53:48,810 diets and with whatever they're putting 1337 00:53:54,530 --> 00:53:51,440 in people cattles miles you know 1338 00:53:56,690 --> 00:53:54,540 probably you should really reduce your 1339 00:53:58,480 --> 00:53:56,700 red meat too and watch out if your 1340 00:54:01,330 --> 00:53:58,490 chicken has hormones in it or what 1341 00:54:03,130 --> 00:54:01,340 ever don't eat it stay away from sugar 1342 00:54:05,350 --> 00:54:03,140 more than anything and stay away from 1343 00:54:08,260 --> 00:54:05,360 too much fruit because fruit sugar 1344 00:54:09,820 --> 00:54:08,270 fructose is the problem now something 1345 00:54:12,970 --> 00:54:09,830 interesting in our country we have like 1346 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:12,980 almost all your your sweet sweeteners 1347 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:15,770 now they're based on corn syrup solids 1348 00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:18,610 corn syrup and high fructose 1349 00:54:24,250 --> 00:54:22,250 SERPs all of these are they'll give you 1350 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:24,260 a good case of diabetes if you're a kid 1351 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:27,410 and even sugar itself is better off 1352 00:54:32,620 --> 00:54:29,090 because there's some fructose in it and 1353 00:54:35,470 --> 00:54:32,630 all that it's not all sucrose but even 1354 00:54:38,890 --> 00:54:35,480 white sugar is better than this it's 1355 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:38,900 this corn syrup chunk right we have it's 1356 00:54:44,380 --> 00:54:41,330 dangerous it's all for our part people 1357 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:44,390 are on a poor diet you when you can 1358 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:46,010 spend five dollars and can fill your 1359 00:54:50,710 --> 00:54:48,770 stomach and it's all dangerous for you 1360 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:50,720 and you get to get fat you're gonna get 1361 00:54:55,450 --> 00:54:53,330 you know mm-hmm that's all and that was 1362 00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:55,460 one of my questions for you because as I 1363 00:54:59,170 --> 00:54:57,170 understand it if you have this sv40 1364 00:55:01,480 --> 00:54:59,180 virus it mutates into cancer and about 1365 00:55:03,490 --> 00:55:01,490 one in 200 people are these things the 1366 00:55:05,260 --> 00:55:03,500 factors and triggers that determine who 1367 00:55:07,090 --> 00:55:05,270 that one out of 200 is going to be or 1368 00:55:08,980 --> 00:55:07,100 are we just screwed if the damage is 1369 00:55:11,109 --> 00:55:08,990 already done if we know there are so 1370 00:55:13,330 --> 00:55:11,119 many ways you can trigger stress for 1371 00:55:15,849 --> 00:55:13,340 example Americans are among the highest 1372 00:55:17,980 --> 00:55:15,859 threats people and they work harder than 1373 00:55:20,260 --> 00:55:17,990 almost anybody else we've almost doubled 1374 00:55:23,230 --> 00:55:20,270 our production rates we haven't given it 1375 00:55:25,270 --> 00:55:23,240 the peoples of money what what makes me 1376 00:55:26,740 --> 00:55:25,280 almost laugh is I know so many people 1377 00:55:28,570 --> 00:55:26,750 they they don't dare take their 1378 00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:28,580 vacations it's on paper that they have 1379 00:55:32,230 --> 00:55:30,530 two weeks they don't dare take it right 1380 00:55:34,750 --> 00:55:32,240 all right you know and the other thing 1381 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:34,760 is on paper they're paid maybe time and 1382 00:55:39,970 --> 00:55:37,010 a half but they make them work overtime 1383 00:55:42,430 --> 00:55:39,980 without putting on paper you know mm-hmm 1384 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:42,440 and and if they don't do it they'll be 1385 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:45,770 fired why if you can't just think we 1386 00:55:50,650 --> 00:55:48,650 have so many people overseas that their 1387 00:55:53,650 --> 00:55:50,660 workweek is 37 hours they're like in 1388 00:55:57,070 --> 00:55:53,660 France it's even 30 just 35 they get 1389 00:55:59,500 --> 00:55:57,080 full benefits not in America when I see 1390 00:56:02,290 --> 00:55:59,510 that we have people overseas they're 1391 00:56:04,810 --> 00:56:02,300 getting free medical care I saw an 87 1392 00:56:06,970 --> 00:56:04,820 year old woman she was operated on for 1393 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:06,980 stomach cancer she lived to be 90 after 1394 00:56:11,170 --> 00:56:08,690 the operation she was so happy 1395 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:11,180 her family was happy in the United 1396 00:56:15,460 --> 00:56:12,170 States they never would 1397 00:56:18,490 --> 00:56:15,470 a chance mm-hmm and how many people are 1398 00:56:20,410 --> 00:56:18,500 losing their homes but let's go back to 1399 00:56:22,510 --> 00:56:20,420 this trigger factor about this before 1400 00:56:24,970 --> 00:56:22,520 you monkey virus almost anything could 1401 00:56:26,980 --> 00:56:24,980 cause it I have to go through TSA get 1402 00:56:30,460 --> 00:56:26,990 these x-rays but then I'm also on a 1403 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:30,470 plane I've made I'll be making at the 1404 00:56:35,410 --> 00:56:33,170 end of July I'll have made eight trips 1405 00:56:37,510 --> 00:56:35,420 over this over the Atlantic Ocean back 1406 00:56:40,690 --> 00:56:37,520 and forth you know mm-hmm and a high 1407 00:56:43,900 --> 00:56:40,700 altitude where I'm being bathed in 1408 00:56:46,299 --> 00:56:43,910 radiation right there's nothing I can do 1409 00:56:48,849 --> 00:56:46,309 about it except try to fortify myself 1410 00:56:50,620 --> 00:56:48,859 but I probably will die of cancer I 1411 00:56:52,359 --> 00:56:50,630 worked with it I've even swallowed some 1412 00:56:53,710 --> 00:56:52,369 of it accidentally because when you're 1413 00:56:55,599 --> 00:56:53,720 working with test tubes and things you 1414 00:56:57,900 --> 00:56:55,609 have to suck yeah these suck up this 1415 00:57:00,280 --> 00:56:57,910 stuff in with pipettes 1416 00:57:02,380 --> 00:57:00,290 yeah you have cotton swab at the end 1417 00:57:04,329 --> 00:57:02,390 well if you that cotton swab gets wet 1418 00:57:06,579 --> 00:57:04,339 because you suck too hard hit your get 1419 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:06,589 down on your mouth you know yeah you've 1420 00:57:10,150 --> 00:57:08,210 been exposed to a lot of radiation over 1421 00:57:11,980 --> 00:57:10,160 the years I was exposed to a lot of 1422 00:57:13,990 --> 00:57:11,990 radiation I really should be dead of 1423 00:57:16,450 --> 00:57:14,000 cancer by now but try to take good care 1424 00:57:18,910 --> 00:57:16,460 of myself and with all the x-rays and 1425 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:18,920 things that where people are exposed to 1426 00:57:25,270 --> 00:57:22,250 the worst problem of all is nasty rotten 1427 00:57:26,980 --> 00:57:25,280 food sometimes literally that I can 1428 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:26,990 hardly stand some of the food over here 1429 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:30,170 having tasted really good food and like 1430 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:32,450 go back to free medical care over there 1431 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:34,970 here you lose your home in order to 1432 00:57:38,470 --> 00:57:36,290 trying to get yourself cared or 1433 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:38,480 something we don't have inheritances 1434 00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:41,450 anymore when I'm overseas and I see that 1435 00:57:46,059 --> 00:57:44,089 I asked my friend George that was his 1436 00:57:48,700 --> 00:57:46,069 mother who said stomach cancer he had it 1437 00:57:51,039 --> 00:57:48,710 to again put add those up 1438 00:57:53,140 --> 00:57:51,049 he had it his mother had it well they 1439 00:57:55,390 --> 00:57:53,150 have a very they had a very poor diet 1440 00:57:57,789 --> 00:57:55,400 they didn't like they like to eat lots 1441 00:58:00,130 --> 00:57:57,799 of sugar and they ate they didn't like 1442 00:58:02,220 --> 00:58:00,140 fruits and vegetables and they got 1443 00:58:05,530 --> 00:58:02,230 stomach cancer it's very interesting 1444 00:58:07,780 --> 00:58:05,540 Wow yeah we live in troubled times and 1445 00:58:10,450 --> 00:58:07,790 people just seem to be letting it all 1446 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:10,460 happen people feel helpless you when we 1447 00:58:16,329 --> 00:58:13,490 talked about against them giving these 1448 00:58:18,309 --> 00:58:16,339 shots over in Africa or India there 1449 00:58:20,410 --> 00:58:18,319 actually have more polio now than 1450 00:58:22,059 --> 00:58:20,420 they've ever had in use got so upset 1451 00:58:23,289 --> 00:58:22,069 about it I think they tried to sue or 1452 00:58:26,070 --> 00:58:23,299 something at least they kicked them out 1453 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:26,080 because these poor people 1454 00:58:30,300 --> 00:58:27,970 I have lots more polio than they had 1455 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:30,310 before the definition of polio has 1456 00:58:35,220 --> 00:58:32,410 changed you see it used to be that if 1457 00:58:37,830 --> 00:58:35,230 you got the fever and a headache or 1458 00:58:40,170 --> 00:58:37,840 whatever and it taking but it and and 1459 00:58:42,210 --> 00:58:40,180 you were paralyzed for say several days 1460 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:42,220 but you got over it they don't they no 1461 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:45,010 longer call that polio hmm you get that 1462 00:58:49,950 --> 00:58:46,930 a lot from some of these shots right 1463 00:58:52,050 --> 00:58:49,960 they change definition because it has to 1464 00:58:54,690 --> 00:58:52,060 be a permanent I mean you know where 1465 00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:54,700 it's you you have you're paralyzed for 1466 00:58:59,040 --> 00:58:56,770 months then they say oh you have polio 1467 00:59:01,050 --> 00:58:59,050 but not you you you and you you don't 1468 00:59:02,820 --> 00:59:01,060 have well that's a curiously on that 1469 00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:02,830 subject because you do seem to know so 1470 00:59:06,570 --> 00:59:04,720 much about the medical field and what's 1471 00:59:08,460 --> 00:59:06,580 going on I wonder doctor what helped 1472 00:59:10,830 --> 00:59:08,470 people you know right I've kept up with 1473 00:59:12,750 --> 00:59:10,840 these things do you have any thoughts on 1474 00:59:15,060 --> 00:59:12,760 the Morgellons stuff that's happening 1475 00:59:17,340 --> 00:59:15,070 well that's why I say it my story I have 1476 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:17,350 plastic actually being created right out 1477 00:59:22,980 --> 00:59:20,170 of their heads wherever they want here's 1478 00:59:25,380 --> 00:59:22,990 the thing it's a shame I I'm not gonna 1479 00:59:26,910 --> 00:59:25,390 say that Morgellons is real I'm not 1480 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:26,920 gonna go that far because I don't want 1481 00:59:33,630 --> 00:59:29,530 to get chomped on you know and broaden 1482 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:33,640 upon but frankly it's possible it's 1483 00:59:38,790 --> 00:59:36,610 chemically and biochemically possible 1484 00:59:41,300 --> 00:59:38,800 because these flat plat there are 1485 00:59:45,060 --> 00:59:41,310 plastics that are so closely related to 1486 00:59:47,340 --> 00:59:45,070 keratin human hair that I can see if a 1487 00:59:49,380 --> 00:59:47,350 virus which is very very small 1488 00:59:51,770 --> 00:59:49,390 here's viruses are smaller than hairs 1489 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:51,780 many Muslim re this is a mega virus I 1490 00:59:56,010 --> 00:59:54,010 can see where you could get a viral 1491 00:59:57,870 --> 00:59:56,020 infection that could take class could 1492 01:00:01,170 --> 00:59:57,880 take a regular hair and turn it into 1493 01:00:02,910 --> 01:00:01,180 plastic well it's possible I'm not 1494 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:02,920 saying that's what's going on I'm saying 1495 01:00:07,860 --> 01:00:05,770 it is possible they they say all they've 1496 01:00:12,180 --> 01:00:07,870 done is scratch themselves and they got 1497 01:00:15,630 --> 01:00:12,190 fibers you know and in it it is possible 1498 01:00:18,620 --> 01:00:15,640 that nano fibers that have been 1499 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:18,630 subjected to radiation could maybe be 1500 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:21,610 activated when they hit DNA it could 1501 01:00:27,690 --> 01:00:25,570 even be a real kind of terrorism to put 1502 01:00:29,460 --> 01:00:27,700 on you can imagine if you wake up you've 1503 01:00:31,530 --> 01:00:29,470 got hair sprouting all over you this 1504 01:00:32,850 --> 01:00:31,540 green or something I mean what could 1505 01:00:34,860 --> 01:00:32,860 happen to us in the future of these 1506 01:00:37,350 --> 01:00:34,870 people we'll try anything if they could 1507 01:00:39,810 --> 01:00:37,360 spray whooping cough on us way back in 1508 01:00:42,780 --> 01:00:39,820 the 50s what can they do today 1509 01:00:44,820 --> 01:00:42,790 mm-hmm and I say they who are they so 1510 01:00:46,830 --> 01:00:44,830 many people say I just do what I'm told 1511 01:00:48,900 --> 01:00:46,840 well my friends as long as you do what 1512 01:00:52,620 --> 01:00:48,910 you told we're gonna have the world we 1513 01:00:54,510 --> 01:00:52,630 have mm-hmm well said and Wow Judy it is 1514 01:00:56,580 --> 01:00:54,520 about time I cut you loose but I 1515 01:00:58,140 --> 01:00:56,590 consider this a real milestone for me 1516 01:00:59,490 --> 01:00:58,150 just to spend some time talking with 1517 01:01:01,080 --> 01:00:59,500 someone who's so intimately involved 1518 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:01,090 with this stuff and on behalf of the 1519 01:01:04,710 --> 01:01:02,770 listeners thanks for putting yourself at 1520 01:01:06,780 --> 01:01:04,720 risk to get the truth out it's a noble 1521 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:06,790 thing you're very brave and to relive 1522 01:01:11,780 --> 01:01:09,130 this pain every time oh my god not 1523 01:01:14,790 --> 01:01:11,790 always brave in the middle of the night 1524 01:01:17,220 --> 01:01:14,800 it cannot be easy and to relive this 1525 01:01:19,830 --> 01:01:17,230 pain every time you speak out is got to 1526 01:01:22,290 --> 01:01:19,840 be difficult my friend but it's what's 1527 01:01:24,270 --> 01:01:22,300 nice is that you let me 1528 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:24,280 they call it rambling on my enemies do 1529 01:01:29,700 --> 01:01:27,490 you know who rambles on but I think I 1530 01:01:31,260 --> 01:01:29,710 tried to do it give you a rich picture 1531 01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:31,270 of what's going on and not just keep it 1532 01:01:36,380 --> 01:01:33,850 in one spot you know we can't focus on 1533 01:01:38,460 --> 01:01:36,390 one spot I think it'd be kind of boring 1534 01:01:40,350 --> 01:01:38,470 that you feel like you've learned 1535 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:40,360 something I hope it's helped somebody 1536 01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:43,210 absolutely absolutely if anybody wants 1537 01:01:48,690 --> 01:01:45,250 to go to see some of the stuff at my 1538 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:48,700 blogs right it's Judith Baker Ju D Y th 1539 01:01:52,020 --> 01:01:49,690 Judith Baker 1540 01:01:54,750 --> 01:01:52,030 blogspot.com you can actually get 1541 01:01:56,670 --> 01:01:54,760 autographed books there and donations I 1542 01:01:58,650 --> 01:01:56,680 don't ask for don't I've never asked for 1543 01:02:02,070 --> 01:01:58,660 donations but I do tell you that there 1544 01:02:05,790 --> 01:02:02,080 is a button but that's as far as I'll go 1545 01:02:08,370 --> 01:02:05,800 I really appreciate all the people are 1546 01:02:10,050 --> 01:02:08,380 doing it sometimes I feel like the last 1547 01:02:13,050 --> 01:02:10,060 witness standing they are dying like 1548 01:02:17,130 --> 01:02:13,060 flies now hmm so as long as I can speak 1549 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:17,140 and I show Amen and remind us once more 1550 01:02:19,980 --> 01:02:18,610 because he's mentioned it in the second 1551 01:02:21,990 --> 01:02:19,990 hour I wanted to say it again the 1552 01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:22,000 upcoming conference oh yes and it's 1553 01:02:27,510 --> 01:02:24,130 going to be held Dallas at the Crowne 1554 01:02:30,390 --> 01:02:27,520 Plaza Hotel you can go to JFK conference 1555 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:30,400 calm or we're also going to put up JFK 1556 01:02:35,660 --> 01:02:33,490 conferences calm and the tickets are not 1557 01:02:41,190 --> 01:02:35,670 that expensive they're well they're 1558 01:02:44,010 --> 01:02:41,200 presently 80 I think they're $85 $95 1559 01:02:47,610 --> 01:02:44,020 like that and it's for all three days 1560 01:02:49,010 --> 01:02:47,620 the main thing is that we if there's 1561 01:02:51,150 --> 01:02:49,020 someone who really can't afford it 1562 01:02:52,579 --> 01:02:51,160 contact me I'll try and find a way to 1563 01:02:54,769 --> 01:02:52,589 get you a ticket because 1564 01:02:59,719 --> 01:02:54,779 that's more important than money this is 1565 01:03:02,839 --> 01:02:59,729 not we can't get a for a tax status that 1566 01:03:05,479 --> 01:03:02,849 says we're nonprofit it's they make it 1567 01:03:07,910 --> 01:03:05,489 really hard really good for someone like 1568 01:03:09,199 --> 01:03:07,920 us but what we do do is and the books 1569 01:03:11,599 --> 01:03:09,209 are open people can look we're not 1570 01:03:14,359 --> 01:03:11,609 making money off of this thing we but we 1571 01:03:16,279 --> 01:03:14,369 do I'm selling my paintings my paintings 1572 01:03:17,929 --> 01:03:16,289 sell for six thousand I do not keep the 1573 01:03:21,229 --> 01:03:17,939 money from that I can't afford to 1574 01:03:23,150 --> 01:03:21,239 actually mmm because I want people know 1575 01:03:25,459 --> 01:03:23,160 I don't keep money on this thing I just 1576 01:03:27,199 --> 01:03:25,469 story has never been for sale so it goes 1577 01:03:29,599 --> 01:03:27,209 straight into the conference so that's 1578 01:03:31,130 --> 01:03:29,609 that's how a lot of its being actually 1579 01:03:32,929 --> 01:03:31,140 financed but there are people have 1580 01:03:35,599 --> 01:03:32,939 really stuck their necks out here and 1581 01:03:38,179 --> 01:03:35,609 help finance it cut these conferences 1582 01:03:41,479 --> 01:03:38,189 are not cheap but we have probably the 1583 01:03:43,189 --> 01:03:41,489 best one in the world on something and 1584 01:03:44,689 --> 01:03:43,199 we're going to have another because of 1585 01:03:47,719 --> 01:03:44,699 all that's going on we're gonna have 1586 01:03:51,140 --> 01:03:47,729 surely rid everyone in Washington DC we 1587 01:03:53,420 --> 01:03:51,150 almost had one in Europe but it's the 1588 01:03:55,489 --> 01:03:53,430 legalities are kind of complicated we 1589 01:03:57,949 --> 01:03:55,499 probably will have one next year also in 1590 01:03:59,660 --> 01:03:57,959 Mexico City looking that way these 1591 01:04:01,519 --> 01:03:59,670 people are really excited they love 1592 01:04:02,900 --> 01:04:01,529 Kennedy and they haven't been told the 1593 01:04:03,679 --> 01:04:02,910 truth they really want to know it even 1594 01:04:06,679 --> 01:04:03,689 if they have to hear it through 1595 01:04:09,769 --> 01:04:06,689 translators hmm right on a lot of stuff 1596 01:04:11,150 --> 01:04:09,779 happening for sure Tippett somebody I'm 1597 01:04:12,769 --> 01:04:11,160 not saying take down the tip it's saying 1598 01:04:16,099 --> 01:04:12,779 but that's what I hear some some people 1599 01:04:18,890 --> 01:04:16,109 saying all right I'll set yeah take that 1600 01:04:20,900 --> 01:04:18,900 tip it sign down we've gotta do 1601 01:04:23,059 --> 01:04:20,910 something here to start turning it 1602 01:04:25,549 --> 01:04:23,069 around how dare the city of Dallas be 1603 01:04:27,650 --> 01:04:25,559 the judge and jury of Lee Oswald mm-hmm 1604 01:04:29,839 --> 01:04:27,660 great well hey Judy has been a real 1605 01:04:32,779 --> 01:04:29,849 pleasure getting to know you and talking 1606 01:04:34,549 --> 01:04:32,789 to you well thank you Greg absolutely 1607 01:04:36,439 --> 01:04:34,559 absolutely keep fighting the good fight 1608 01:04:39,169 --> 01:04:36,449 and do take care of yourself out there 1609 01:04:41,150 --> 01:04:39,179 it's dangerous join me on Facebook and 1610 01:04:43,549 --> 01:04:41,160 that's where I can help people and it 1611 01:04:45,769 --> 01:04:43,559 makes me really happy I always tell them 1612 01:04:47,779 --> 01:04:45,779 I have to you know be sure to see your 1613 01:04:49,910 --> 01:04:47,789 doctor you know get the information from 1614 01:04:52,309 --> 01:04:49,920 the doctor don't just believe me or all 1615 01:04:55,729 --> 01:04:52,319 that but I do hope that I could help 1616 01:04:57,499 --> 01:04:55,739 people and in some way at least even 1617 01:05:00,439 --> 01:04:57,509 though I couldn't go ahead and cure 1618 01:05:02,479 --> 01:05:00,449 cancer like I hoped or even be a doctor 1619 01:05:04,819 --> 01:05:02,489 I have been able to help some people and 1620 01:05:06,020 --> 01:05:04,829 that helped that helps well then that 1621 01:05:08,510 --> 01:05:06,030 dry-cell Almighty 1622 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:08,520 mm-hmm well you're definitely making a 1623 01:05:12,620 --> 01:05:10,770 difference in more ways than one thanks 1624 01:05:14,810 --> 01:05:12,630 again all right and thank all of you 1625 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:14,820 just thank you so much for everybody I'm 1626 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:17,450 just so grateful perfect bye bye great 1627 01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:21,330 boom people Judith very Baker I feel a 1628 01:05:25,460 --> 01:05:23,130 little special getting this interview to 1629 01:05:27,770 --> 01:05:25,470 be one person removed from Lee Harvey 1630 01:05:31,130 --> 01:05:27,780 Oswald it's a cool feeling 1631 01:05:34,340 --> 01:05:31,140 but Judy is a very kind and empathetic 1632 01:05:36,410 --> 01:05:34,350 woman and I know she's stressed out this 1633 01:05:39,170 --> 01:05:36,420 wasn't exactly an easy interview to 1634 01:05:40,820 --> 01:05:39,180 secure and her having a scientific and 1635 01:05:42,740 --> 01:05:40,830 medical background as well as coming 1636 01:05:44,420 --> 01:05:42,750 forward with this story where I'm sure 1637 01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:44,430 she's taken a lot of criticism and 1638 01:05:49,850 --> 01:05:47,010 people picking apart her words trying to 1639 01:05:52,580 --> 01:05:49,860 find holes or ways to discredit this 1640 01:05:55,100 --> 01:05:52,590 saga so I understand and I don't mind 1641 01:05:57,050 --> 01:05:55,110 all the talking over me I think she's 1642 01:05:59,090 --> 01:05:57,060 just trying to be hyper-vigilant about 1643 01:06:01,520 --> 01:05:59,100 her words and everything that comes out 1644 01:06:05,510 --> 01:06:01,530 and how it comes out because of so much 1645 01:06:08,090 --> 01:06:05,520 scrutiny so I get it the details have to 1646 01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:08,100 be on point and consistent but as 1647 01:06:12,170 --> 01:06:10,530 interesting as the love affair angle is 1648 01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:12,180 I wanted to spend more time talking 1649 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:13,850 about the weaponized cancer project 1650 01:06:18,620 --> 01:06:16,410 especially after last week's show with 1651 01:06:20,630 --> 01:06:18,630 Patrick Jordan I mean the weaponized 1652 01:06:22,850 --> 01:06:20,640 cancer Project and the polio vaccine 1653 01:06:25,700 --> 01:06:22,860 connection is something that affects all 1654 01:06:27,470 --> 01:06:25,710 of us way more than a love affair with 1655 01:06:29,660 --> 01:06:27,480 Lee Harvey Oswald as interesting as it 1656 01:06:31,970 --> 01:06:29,670 is also if you're trying to get a feel 1657 01:06:34,310 --> 01:06:31,980 for her truthfulness and legitimacy 1658 01:06:35,900 --> 01:06:34,320 I think that's easier to feel out when 1659 01:06:38,060 --> 01:06:35,910 talking about something like the medical 1660 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:38,070 establishment and she definitely seems 1661 01:06:42,620 --> 01:06:40,410 to know her stuff do check out me and 1662 01:06:44,540 --> 01:06:42,630 Lee if you need any more evidence to go 1663 01:06:46,250 --> 01:06:44,550 on because she throws a whole lot in 1664 01:06:48,230 --> 01:06:46,260 there but I thought it was a great show 1665 01:06:50,180 --> 01:06:48,240 I've been pretty preoccupied with the 1666 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:50,190 medical and nutritional conspiracies 1667 01:06:53,930 --> 01:06:52,170 lately not that I have a lot of other 1668 01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:53,940 ones planned in this realm but it's 1669 01:06:58,010 --> 01:06:55,890 probably my biggest area of struggle 1670 01:07:00,560 --> 01:06:58,020 personally you know eating right and 1671 01:07:03,410 --> 01:07:00,570 avoiding the barrage of processed foods 1672 01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:03,420 and eating a diet more geared for just 1673 01:07:08,390 --> 01:07:06,690 health in general and exercise of course 1674 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:08,400 it's all easier said than done but if 1675 01:07:12,710 --> 01:07:09,690 you look at the three pillars of 1676 01:07:15,590 --> 01:07:12,720 happiness typically being your romantic 1677 01:07:18,500 --> 01:07:15,600 life your financial life and your health 1678 01:07:19,490 --> 01:07:18,510 I'm with someone I love doing a job I 1679 01:07:21,950 --> 01:07:19,500 love but that the 1680 01:07:23,390 --> 01:07:21,960 pillar is sort of in shambles and we 1681 01:07:24,980 --> 01:07:23,400 should always focus on bringing our 1682 01:07:26,870 --> 01:07:24,990 weaknesses up to the level of our 1683 01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:26,880 strengths rather than just writing them 1684 01:07:30,410 --> 01:07:28,170 off as well 1685 01:07:32,180 --> 01:07:30,420 I just don't do good in that area screw 1686 01:07:33,710 --> 01:07:32,190 that I mean everybody's capable of being 1687 01:07:36,110 --> 01:07:33,720 in great health everyone can have a 1688 01:07:38,630 --> 01:07:36,120 six-pack if they want one just do the 1689 01:07:40,700 --> 01:07:38,640 work try it out but because of all that 1690 01:07:43,010 --> 01:07:40,710 I like the medical and nutritional 1691 01:07:45,620 --> 01:07:43,020 topics we've kind of gotten into lately 1692 01:07:48,050 --> 01:07:45,630 and the cancer conversation always leads 1693 01:07:49,490 --> 01:07:48,060 to one about health and nutrition so we 1694 01:07:51,290 --> 01:07:49,500 got a little bit of it today of course 1695 01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:51,300 if you like the first hour sign up for 1696 01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:53,010 plus support the show that you know you 1697 01:07:57,110 --> 01:07:55,410 love you know I work hard on and you 1698 01:07:59,930 --> 01:07:57,120 know you've been listening to for free 1699 01:08:02,210 --> 01:07:59,940 for a long time $5.00 here the whole 1700 01:08:05,030 --> 01:08:02,220 thing in today's plus show some of the 1701 01:08:07,070 --> 01:08:05,040 big things we got into were how the use 1702 01:08:09,140 --> 01:08:07,080 of antibiotics has decreased the 1703 01:08:11,210 --> 01:08:09,150 cleanliness standards and hospitals and 1704 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:11,220 how ultraviolet lights in hospitals 1705 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:13,530 could improve sanitation and probably 1706 01:08:18,710 --> 01:08:15,930 save a lot of lives if that was the goal 1707 01:08:21,260 --> 01:08:18,720 and we got into some details about Lee's 1708 01:08:23,210 --> 01:08:21,270 Widow Marina Oswald the couple's 1709 01:08:25,579 --> 01:08:23,220 marriage and why marina won't speak out 1710 01:08:27,559 --> 01:08:25,589 on her husband's behalf I was really 1711 01:08:29,870 --> 01:08:27,569 curious to ask Judy who's been very 1712 01:08:32,300 --> 01:08:29,880 public about her affair with Lee if 1713 01:08:35,539 --> 01:08:32,310 she's ever spoken with Lee's wife or 1714 01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:35,549 family she's still alive so I was 1715 01:08:40,269 --> 01:08:38,370 curious but it is a bit awkward and we 1716 01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:40,279 did get into that we also talked about 1717 01:08:45,349 --> 01:08:42,930 what some of Judy's critics have said 1718 01:08:48,440 --> 01:08:45,359 about our work lies they've told her 1719 01:08:51,349 --> 01:08:48,450 rebuttals and explanations and the 1720 01:08:53,930 --> 01:08:51,359 danger she's been in we also got into 1721 01:08:56,809 --> 01:08:53,940 the Ted Cruz thing insights into the 1722 01:08:59,180 --> 01:08:56,819 relationship to Ted Cruz's father Rafael 1723 01:09:01,280 --> 01:08:59,190 who was in Dallas at the time of the JFK 1724 01:09:03,789 --> 01:09:01,290 assassination we talked about why he was 1725 01:09:06,579 --> 01:09:03,799 there how suspicious it is that someone 1726 01:09:09,380 --> 01:09:06,589 connected to such a deep project and 1727 01:09:11,809 --> 01:09:09,390 propaganda would then have a son who is 1728 01:09:14,930 --> 01:09:11,819 one of the selected few who gets to 1729 01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:14,940 maybe be a presidential nominee and I 1730 01:09:19,249 --> 01:09:17,250 was also surprised this story kind of 1731 01:09:21,829 --> 01:09:19,259 hit the mainstream a little bit after 1732 01:09:23,630 --> 01:09:21,839 talking to Ed has him about it you know 1733 01:09:25,370 --> 01:09:23,640 Trump wasn't wrong on this one I think 1734 01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:25,380 he's the guy who brought it up and put 1735 01:09:29,090 --> 01:09:26,370 it out in the media and then they 1736 01:09:32,930 --> 01:09:29,100 quickly buried it and Judy had more to 1737 01:09:35,059 --> 01:09:32,940 add on that topic so all good stuff 1738 01:09:38,420 --> 01:09:35,069 really happy with the roster for the 1739 01:09:40,130 --> 01:09:38,430 next eight shows or so half of them are 1740 01:09:42,650 --> 01:09:40,140 already recorded I think you're gonna be 1741 01:09:44,090 --> 01:09:42,660 pretty impressed but that's it for me 1742 01:09:46,070 --> 01:09:44,100 and I guess I'll see you soon with the 1743 01:09:47,870 --> 01:09:46,080 fifth show of June your move 1744 01:09:49,970 --> 01:09:47,880 orchestrators of the chemo industrial 1745 01:09:52,059 --> 01:09:49,980 complex the cancer cure coverup and 1746 01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:52,069 bioweapon wielders of the power pyramid 1747 01:10:04,120 --> 01:09:57,570 your [\h__\h] move no one knows what it's 1748 01:10:12,770 --> 01:10:04,130 like to be the bad man to be the sad man 1749 01:10:20,860 --> 01:10:12,780 behind blue eyes and no one knows what 1750 01:10:30,979 --> 01:10:20,870 it's like to be hated to be fated to 1751 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:30,989 telling only lies but my dreams heart is 1752 01:11:00,680 --> 01:10:52,069 lonely since they exposed me 1753 01:11:17,250 --> 01:11:05,520 no one knows what it's like feel these 1754 01:11:23,060 --> 01:11:17,260 feelings like I do and I blame you no 1755 01:11:32,250 --> 01:11:23,070 one bites back is hard on their anger 1756 01:11:41,450 --> 01:11:32,260 love my pain one can show through but my 1757 01:11:59,300 --> 01:11:41,460 dreams aren't as empty as my conscience 1758 01:11:59,310 --> 01:12:36,650 see 1759 01:12:59,810 --> 01:12:45,330 but my dreams aren't as empty as my 1760 01:13:12,370 --> 01:12:59,820 conscience seems to be I have wait only 1761 01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:17,240 no one knows what it's like to be the 1762 01:13:34,350 --> 01:13:32,759 hey guys thanks for listening to the 1763 01:13:36,689 --> 01:13:34,360 first hour of the higher side chats 1764 01:13:38,759 --> 01:13:36,699 podcast with me Greg Carl wood if you 1765 01:13:41,129 --> 01:13:38,769 don't know there is a second hour to all 1766 01:13:42,810 --> 01:13:41,139 the episodes we do around here generally 1767 01:13:44,549 --> 01:13:42,820 we're able to get a lot deeper into the 1768 01:13:46,830 --> 01:13:44,559 topics and ideas that a guest is about 1769 01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:46,840 so if you enjoyed what you've heard from 1770 01:13:51,899 --> 01:13:49,690 THC for free consider signing up at the 1771 01:13:53,850 --> 01:13:51,909 higher side chats plus com to get the 1772 01:13:56,189 --> 01:13:53,860 second hour of the 5 shows I put 1773 01:13:58,080 --> 01:13:56,199 together each month I never really 1774 01:13:59,790 --> 01:13:58,090 wanted to be a paid subscriber podcast 1775 01:14:01,799 --> 01:13:59,800 but I really hate the idea of spending 1776 01:14:03,899 --> 01:14:01,809 airtime promoting some product that's 1777 01:14:05,549 --> 01:14:03,909 completely unrelated and telling you the 1778 01:14:08,339 --> 01:14:05,559 best way to support the show is to buy 1779 01:14:10,020 --> 01:14:08,349 an audio book or new underwear by mail 1780 01:14:12,569 --> 01:14:10,030 or something crazy like that so instead 1781 01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:12,579 if you like the show double your time 1782 01:14:16,259 --> 01:14:14,170 with it for five bucks a month and let's 1783 01:14:17,910 --> 01:14:16,269 cut out all the other [\h__\h] it's half the 1784 01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:17,920 price of a movie ticket and you get at 1785 01:14:22,290 --> 01:14:19,690 least an extra five hours of show a 1786 01:14:24,089 --> 01:14:22,300 month collectively it keeps us stable 1787 01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:24,099 and it frees me from wasting your time 1788 01:14:28,229 --> 01:14:25,690 with anything but the show you came to 1789 01:14:30,209 --> 01:14:28,239 listen to it's really the only way for 1790 01:14:32,009 --> 01:14:30,219 an independent one-man show to make it 1791 01:14:34,259 --> 01:14:32,019 and I do what I can so that it's worth 1792 01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:34,269 your while since we started this I've 1793 01:14:38,250 --> 01:14:36,250 always tried to use the subscriptions to 1794 01:14:40,799 --> 01:14:38,260 improve the podcast and make signups 1795 01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:40,809 more advantageous it started with just a 1796 01:14:44,399 --> 01:14:42,730 second hour for the main show but now 1797 01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:44,409 we've got a nice forum going where 1798 01:14:48,180 --> 01:14:46,449 people can get deeper in conversation 1799 01:14:51,060 --> 01:14:48,190 about the episodes with other listeners 1800 01:14:53,310 --> 01:14:51,070 submit a candidate in the guest request 1801 01:14:54,990 --> 01:14:53,320 thread or share their own personal 1802 01:14:57,089 --> 01:14:55,000 projects to get out of the soul-crushing 1803 01:14:59,669 --> 01:14:57,099 nine-to-five cog in the wheel life on 1804 01:15:01,109 --> 01:14:59,679 the entrepreneurs thread the forum in 1805 01:15:03,029 --> 01:15:01,119 the Plus comments they're always the 1806 01:15:05,279 --> 01:15:03,039 first places I try to go for listener 1807 01:15:07,649 --> 01:15:05,289 engagement but it does get harder as the 1808 01:15:09,509 --> 01:15:07,659 show gets more popular because of that 1809 01:15:10,979 --> 01:15:09,519 there's also a direct messaging feature 1810 01:15:13,799 --> 01:15:10,989 that you can use to reach me through the 1811 01:15:15,419 --> 01:15:13,809 plus site also but beyond the forum if 1812 01:15:17,609 --> 01:15:15,429 you like any of the music I've used for 1813 01:15:19,379 --> 01:15:17,619 THC most of it I've hired artists to 1814 01:15:21,629 --> 01:15:19,389 make and I provided all its free 1815 01:15:23,100 --> 01:15:21,639 downloads to plus members too so if you 1816 01:15:25,290 --> 01:15:23,110 like a particular song you've heard 1817 01:15:27,689 --> 01:15:25,300 close the show out recently come get the 1818 01:15:29,669 --> 01:15:27,699 mp3 I should also mention that if you 1819 01:15:32,009 --> 01:15:29,679 don't like the idea of paying $5 1820 01:15:34,169 --> 01:15:32,019 recurring every month I get that you can 1821 01:15:36,540 --> 01:15:34,179 buy three months six months or a year 1822 01:15:38,279 --> 01:15:36,550 upfront and just be done with it I have 1823 01:15:40,830 --> 01:15:38,289 plenty of listeners who send checks and 1824 01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:40,840 money orders to the PIO box too I try to 1825 01:15:43,290 --> 01:15:41,530 make it as easy 1826 01:15:45,420 --> 01:15:43,300 for people as I can and you can read 1827 01:15:47,910 --> 01:15:45,430 more about it on the signup page also be 1828 01:15:49,620 --> 01:15:47,920 sure to check out the FAQ help page on 1829 01:15:51,180 --> 01:15:49,630 the plus site if you have any questions 1830 01:15:53,220 --> 01:15:51,190 or concerns about how to listen to a 1831 01:15:55,110 --> 01:15:53,230 password-protected show on your devices 1832 01:15:57,420 --> 01:15:55,120 I've highlighted a lot of great 1833 01:15:59,460 --> 01:15:57,430 solutions and one of those would be the 1834 01:16:01,980 --> 01:15:59,470 iPhone app that just recently hit the 1835 01:16:04,140 --> 01:16:01,990 Apple App Store a super kind and 1836 01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:04,150 talented listener made it for us and you 1837 01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:06,010 can use it to stream or download either 1838 01:16:11,130 --> 01:16:08,170 the free or the plus show if you're on 1839 01:16:12,690 --> 01:16:11,140 Android I'd use pocket casts or podcast 1840 01:16:15,270 --> 01:16:12,700 addict and subscribe to the feed 1841 01:16:17,970 --> 01:16:15,280 manually that way I also try to throw an 1842 01:16:19,980 --> 01:16:17,980 occasional bonus shows or QA shows and 1843 01:16:22,170 --> 01:16:19,990 I've got a few other weird ideas I might 1844 01:16:24,090 --> 01:16:22,180 get to try out soon but I give you all I 1845 01:16:25,770 --> 01:16:24,100 can for five bucks and I hope you'll at 1846 01:16:27,480 --> 01:16:25,780 least give it a shot if you've listened 1847 01:16:29,250 --> 01:16:27,490 to a few free shows and you find them 1848 01:16:31,020 --> 01:16:29,260 unique or valuable I know there's a lot 1849 01:16:33,180 --> 01:16:31,030 of podcasts out there and I'm just one 1850 01:16:35,010 --> 01:16:33,190 of them but if you have any questions 1851 01:16:36,540 --> 01:16:35,020 concerns or comments about any of this 1852 01:16:39,390 --> 01:16:36,550 please get in touch with us at the 1853 01:16:41,340 --> 01:16:39,400 higher side chats team @ gmail.com I 1854 01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:41,350 also wanted to plug the higher side 1855 01:16:44,550 --> 01:16:42,730 newsletter I'm going to be putting out 1856 01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:44,560 totally free for anyone who wants to 1857 01:16:49,650 --> 01:16:47,050 sign up at the main internet website for 1858 01:16:51,480 --> 01:16:49,660 the show the higher side chats comm you 1859 01:16:53,130 --> 01:16:51,490 can also get on that email list through 1860 01:16:55,350 --> 01:16:53,140 the higher side chats Facebook page 1861 01:16:56,730 --> 01:16:55,360 there's a button there as well but the 1862 01:16:59,190 --> 01:16:56,740 reason I'm doing this is because I get 1863 01:17:01,050 --> 01:16:59,200 tons and tons of emails after a show 1864 01:17:03,150 --> 01:17:01,060 goes up asking me about how I feel about 1865 01:17:04,740 --> 01:17:03,160 a particular guest or topic and the 1866 01:17:06,660 --> 01:17:04,750 wrap-up isn't always the best place to 1867 01:17:08,700 --> 01:17:06,670 do that especially if I have anything 1868 01:17:10,590 --> 01:17:08,710 negative to say sometimes the dust needs 1869 01:17:13,050 --> 01:17:10,600 to settle sometimes they need to hear 1870 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:13,060 feedback from you guys first there are a 1871 01:17:16,230 --> 01:17:14,650 lot of factors but I usually have 1872 01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:16,240 something to communicate to you and I 1873 01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:18,850 just don't get to do it so on the 1st of 1874 01:17:20,820 --> 01:17:19,210 the month 1875 01:17:22,740 --> 01:17:20,830 I plan to send out a little newsletter 1876 01:17:24,570 --> 01:17:22,750 with my thoughts about the 5 shows the 1877 01:17:26,610 --> 01:17:24,580 previous month and talk to you about 1878 01:17:28,980 --> 01:17:26,620 anything else that's on my mind or 1879 01:17:30,870 --> 01:17:28,990 that's going on and what's probably most 1880 01:17:32,730 --> 01:17:30,880 enticing is that I'm gonna give you some 1881 01:17:34,860 --> 01:17:32,740 insight into at least one guest I have 1882 01:17:36,870 --> 01:17:34,870 coming up in the month which people have 1883 01:17:37,830 --> 01:17:36,880 been begging for some posted schedule 1884 01:17:39,870 --> 01:17:37,840 for a long time 1885 01:17:41,430 --> 01:17:39,880 I personally think I'd like the surprise 1886 01:17:43,500 --> 01:17:41,440 but sign up for the higher side 1887 01:17:44,970 --> 01:17:43,510 newsletter it's free it comes out on the 1888 01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:44,980 1st of the month and I won't waste your 1889 01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:47,890 time with any other emails and that's it 1890 01:17:51,780 --> 01:17:49,810 I appreciate you listening I try to give 1891 01:17:54,420 --> 01:17:51,790 alternative ideas and guests a fair 1892 01:17:55,830 --> 01:17:54,430 shake on a high-quality podcast expose 1893 01:17:57,899 --> 01:17:55,840 some deep level 1894 01:17:59,580 --> 01:17:57,909 he's without the yelling and I hope to 1895 01:18:01,709 --> 01:17:59,590 offer some inspiration that even though 1896 01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:01,719 the system relentlessly suggests you 1897 01:18:05,399 --> 01:18:03,130 should follow their blueprint to 1898 01:18:07,770 --> 01:18:05,409 mediocrity you can do your own thing and 1899 01:18:09,870 --> 01:18:07,780 live a much happier life despite all the